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If they weren't acting intentionally, they're idiots.

That's entirely possible. But if they weren't acting intentionally, your argument has no weight.

"Individual responsibility" means you are responsible for your choices - and that includes choice of religion.

And "individual rights" means that you have the right to make choices as long as they don't harm others. That includes the choice of religion.

You don't think there is going to be any backlash when non-Muslims are burned alive?

Non-Muslims are burned alive far too often. That doesn't give anyone the right to engage in retaliatory murder against other innocent people who happen to share the same religion, skin color, hairstyle, etc. as the initially murders. We live in a world of laws, not one of weregild and collective guilt. Individual responsibilities, individual rights.

It's perfectly rational to distrust Muslims and we have been given no reason TO trust them.

Since you and your ilk keep calling for the same kind of unrelenting religious war that bin Laden wants, it is perfectly rational for Americans to distrust you. And since you refuse to modify your bloodlust calls after your similarities to al-Qa'ida have been demonstrated, you have given us no reason to think that you're not in league with them.

Didn't sound too "private". Just how can 6 people hold a "private" conversation on an airliner? Apparently, the woman that overheard them understood Arabic... and was disturbed by what she heard them say.

"Private" in that the conversation was not an official one. Last I checked this was a free country and you could speak whatever language you wanted.

Apparently, the woman that overheard them understood Arabic... and was disturbed by what she heard them say.

That's an important point. But given that members of the Nuke Mecca Crowd are "disturbed" by anyone even thinking of talking about Islam, it's not necessarily an sufficient point. Plenty of posters here have stated that the are "disturbed" by flying on a plane with Muslims at all. What was it that "disturbed" this woman?

Don't think I haven't noticed that you appear to exist to defend Islam.

You're not very preceptive then.

Islam is not compatible with the US Constitution.

Actually, religious discrimination is not compatible with the US Constitution. You could look it up.

You know, you hurl "bigot" at people here as if you think we care anymore what you side says on the matter.

I don't care if you don't care what my side says on the matter. You proved your hatred for America and the Constitution a long time ago. Why should you start respecting Americans and Constitutionalists now?

"That's entirely possible. But if they weren't acting intentionally, your argument has no weight. "

Quite a few things otherwise legal can get you extra attention on an airliner.

"And "individual rights" means that you have the right to make choices as long as they don't harm others. That includes the choice of religion. "

A choice of religion - such as a choice of this one - can be a harm to others.

"We live in a world of laws, not one of weregild and collective guilt. Individual responsibilities, individual rights. "

So? When it becomes apparent that the government ignores its laws in favor of one group, the other group tends to react. That's how things have always worked. "Asian" mobs rape and murder with seeming impunity, some soccer hooligans are going to retaliate. It's best that the government not give people the impression that they favor Muslims.

"Since you and your ilk keep calling for the same kind of unrelenting religious war that bin Laden wants, it is perfectly rational for Americans to distrust you"

I and my "ilk" are an increasing number of Americans. You see, we see Islam for what it is. The enemy's ideology.

"Last I checked this was a free country and you could speak whatever language you wanted. "

Ah, but an airliner isn't a "free country".

"Actually, religious discrimination is not compatible with the US Constitution. You could look it up. "

The First Amendment doesn't say that Islam - or any other cult - can't be banned if judged a danger to others. Particularly since Islam is more a political system than religion.

"You proved your hatred for America and the Constitution a long time ago. Why should you start respecting Americans and Constitutionalists now?"

You aren't either of those things, zimdog. You stand on the side of those who would tear my country down. In fact, you stand against my entire civilization.