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To: megatherium
In return, Christians and others who believe that homosexuality is immoral and unhealthy need to realize that most of the medical community and much of society no longer believes this

What country are you living in?!? So in the past few years we have had twenty-something states pass constitutional amendments AGAINST gay marriage by OVERWHELMING margins. That doesn't say the homosexual behavior is normal.

Homosexuality is no different than any other sin - alcoholism, addicted to porn, bestiality, etc. It has NEVER been proved to be genetic. It kills the person 20 years early. One might as well advocate for smoking - it only takes a few years off of one's life.

The liberal media has doe a great job of promoting homosexuality as "normal." That doesn't make it normal. Bestiality is now being promoted - who are we to judge?

62 posted on 11/20/2006 4:55:14 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
My point was merely that much of the ambient society disagrees with Christians about the morality of homosexuality. Not 'most' of the society but 'much' of the society (and the 'much' of the society is found at universities a lot). And when I assert that most of the medical community believes homosexuality to be natural and normal, I am being precise -- I'm not asserting that homosexuality is normal and healthy, I'm merely saying that the medical community believes this, as reflected by the statements of position issued by the American Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, etc.

You should be aware that the statistics about smoking and homosexuality are rather similar. Research done prior to the advent of protease inhibitors (the antivirals that have extended the lives of people with HIV), showed that homosexual men live between 8 and 20 years less than normal on average. (The uncertainty was mainly due to an uncertainty as to what percent of the male population is homosexual.) But cigarettes reduce the lives of smokers by an average of fourteen years (see http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/research_data/economics/mm5425_highlights.htm.)

You are correct that homosexuality has not been proven to be genetic. However, there is evidence that genetics plays a role. (Up to 50%, according to research involving identical twins.) But the truth is that no one knows the cause of homosexuality. Most likely environment and genetics both play a role. None of the usual theories seem to work very well at predicting sexuality. For example, some say that a distant father, or sexual abuse at the hands of a male, etc, cause homosexuality -- but the rub with such theories is that there are plenty of heterosexual men with similar unfortunate experiences.

63 posted on 11/20/2006 5:36:51 PM PST by megatherium
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