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To: DelphiUser
Not true, prove that no one else believes in a pre existence! (it’s always fun to ask someone to prove a negative).

Good response for an individual belief basis. So let me formalize that statement by stating no other prominent religion believes that dad and mom gods engage in celestial sex to have spirit babes who await bodies...and then mom god doesn't even get acknowledged in the "Official LDS faith."

So Heavenly Father is everything to the Mormon because we are literal spirit kids, but Heavenly Mom is apparently just a celestial sex machine because doctrinally, who cares?

So literal sex becomes important in heaven, but when Mormon apostle McConkie and Mormon prophets Joseph Fielding Smith & Brigham Young say that Jesus' birth was one where his conception was of a "literal paternity" by God the Father (quotation from McConkie) versus "letting other man do it" (Young's words)...

ya gotta wonder how a god of flesh & bones conducts a "literal paternity" with Mary the virgin, how Mary remains a virgin, and why the LDS general authorities can't every figure out how to bring the Holy Spirit into their "literal paternity" doctrine to keep it aligned with the Bible.

525 posted on 11/21/2006 11:26:09 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

>>no other prominent religion believes that dad and mom gods engage in celestial sex

Neither I not the Church (to my knowledge) teach this, Source?

People swear all the time, God the Father and Christ get maligned in every mouth that thinks they are cool, tough, or just rebellious. God didn’t want to have his wife trashed that way so he has never told us her name. (As an aside, swearing is not common in Chinese because it takes too long to describe which god you are swearing by.) People could swear by saying heavenly mother, but the ring just isn’t there. Mormons do teach about her, sing about her, and talk about her, but it is a subject held in much reverence and your light treatment of it here is very offensive. How would you feel if your mother was being described in the terms you so casually throw out here?

>>So literal sex becomes important in heaven

Did you question your parents as to there favorite positions? That like how god creates Spirit children is simply none of your business.

>>"literal paternity"

Can we mere mortals recreate a virgin birth? (Yes) then how much easier for God to be the literal Father of Jesus Christ without any of the “Naughty bits” you seem to want to impute to our brains being neccisary.

>>ya gotta wonder

Nope, I don’t wonder at all, I don’t spend much time thinking about it, and I think Mary would be very embarrassed to have you thinking about her like that. Her son might just be put out too. (You don’t spit into the wind, you don’t pull on superman’s’ cape and you don’t mess around with Jim)

I don’t know, no one has said how the actual deed was done, and it’s really none of our business, Jesus is half God so that death must be voluntary, but is possible, without sin so death is unjust, thus allowing Jesus Christ to reverse Adam’s transgression. You want to know the details, you ask him. I am just waiting for you to say the whole thing is just too convenient, like you would if it was purely Mormon doctrine.


547 posted on 11/21/2006 1:40:07 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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