A generation gone south (Liberals drove 1,000's of Canada's best Stateside)

National Post - Canada ^ | Monday, November 20, 2006 | Lorne Gunter

[GMMAC]

PING!

[2banana]

For most, the lure was markedly higher take-home pay. But for many in the health professions, it was also the ability to practice cutting-edge medicine that our socialized system would not pay for, and to make medical decisions that were not blocked by political policies.

A good summary of socialism vs capitalism...

[USS Alaska]

Only the real smart kanucks come to the USA, that is goodness.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...

[Truth29]

Pelosi and Reid will try and reverse this problem.

[GMMAC]

"Only the real smart kanucks come to the USA"

Like NBC's Peter Jennings, CNN's John Roberts, Mark whatshisname who reports from London for CBS ..... ???

... but then we're still stuck with the majority of the draft dodging & military deserting vermin who arrived here in the late 60's & early 70's ... not withstanding that most could have returned home once they were pardoned by arguably the worst President in America's history.

Seemingly, border-hopping commies - in both directions - is a bigger problem than the one outlined in the article.
It's odd too - since both nations supposedly have tough rules with respect to the importation of contagious diseases & insect pests?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

John Roberts was the best disc jockey Canada ever had.

[Uncle Miltie]

At our Syangogue in Fargo, ND, most of the doctors are refugees from Canadian socialized medicine.

[Alouette]

Only the real smart kanucks come to the USA

Jennifer Granholm, Governor of Michigan

[TWohlford]

"Jennifer Granholm, Governor of Michigan"

First, I'll stack up her academic -- and professional -- credentials against YOURS any day of the week. You might not agree with her, but (like Dubya) the vast majority of us can't argue against their academic and professional credentials.

Second, she left when she was FIVE YEARS OLD. FIVE. It's not like she had a choice here. By this standard, I'm an Indianapolis resident, even though I haven't lived there since my father was transferred out of there in 1971.

If you're gonna make political commentary, then do it. If you're gonna take cheap shots, then at least make them funny.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Talk about a truthful statement. Pelosi and Reid drive any sane person "insane." Our American heroes in Arlington, who gave the last measure of devotion to this country, are turning in their graves at the thought of these anti-American, anti-military cowards in power.

[doc30]

Count me as one of the research scientists listed in the total. What the article didn't get into was what the Canadian market is for college grads compared to the U.S. market.

As you probably know, most Canadian industry arises from branch plant economics from U.S. and other foreign companies. Under branch plant economics, there is no need to have R&D and as much on-site enginnering in Canada when the home office in the U.S. takes care of those functions. It's only a few hours drive to most industrial centers in Canada from the U.S.

Also, roughly half the population (54-56% I think)in Canada has a bachelor's degree compared with about a quarter (about 24% I think) in the U.S. So, in Canada, there are more people looking for proprtionately fewer jobs requiring degrees. Hence, more employment opportunity for Canadian professionals with degrees is in the U.S. For example, when I got my PhD, I sent out about 100 resumes. 12 were returned, unopenned, from HR departments labelled "Refused by Addressee" and I had no interviews. Sent my first 5 resumes in the U.S., and had three interviews with two job offers. And the jobs were better than any in Canada I saw and were in my field of study, too!

These reasons, in addition to what's in this article, are strong motivating factors for relocation to the U.S.

Also, I was one of the people actually contacted by Stats Canada after I moved here. The article is spot on accurate.

[GMMAC]

"JD" Roberts - the best disc jockey Canada ever had ?!?!?!

IMHO, from among Roberts' contemporaries, John Derringer would head up a considerable list of his betters.

From somewhat earlier eras: CHUM's Jay Nelson & CKFH's Keith Hampshire.

Honorable mention as "Outstanding Rock 'n' Roll Border Jock" ~ Sandy Beach

[Eric in the Ozarks]

His betters know to stick with spinning 45s. Somehow, Roberts passed muster as a CBS (now CNN) newsman.

[GMMAC]

Agreed: although I've heard the pharmaceutical field (e.g. the "pill hill" area in Mississauga) is one exception when it comes to R&D.
"Branch plant economics" is dead on - the Liberals' habitual failure to encourage secondary and/or processing industries has doomed Canadians to be perennial "hewers of wood & drawers of water".
As example, permitting unsmelted iron ore to be exported to Japan & Korea only to then be bought back in the form of consumer goods is plainly economic insanity bordering upon suicidal.

To back up your statements, a friend of mine's daughter has science-related PhD (Michigan) like yourself and, when landing her current job, she deleted it from her resume & won it based upon her Masters.
Apparently, the job offered her desired salary, was in the exact research field she wanted & located where she wanted to work but she'd earlier been rejected as "over qualified" in several similar situations.

Another issue Lorne Gunter overlooks: Canada is, as far as I know, the only country in the western world without quotas on numbers of foreign nationals teaching in its post secondary institutions.
On the basis of receiving considerable public funding, our schools should be under some sort of onus to hire their own graduates.
If they really aren't turning out people well qualified to be subsequently employed in teaching positions, they should rightly throw in the towel & close their doors!

[George W. Bush]

Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...

...but only if they don't vote liberal.

Still, one Steyn import can outweigh a lot of Petah's.

[doc30]

Another issue Lorne Gunter overlooks: Canada is, as far as I know, the only country in the western world without quotas on numbers of foreign nationals teaching in its post secondary institutions. On the basis of receiving considerable public funding, our schools should be under some sort of onus to hire their own graduates. If they really aren't turning out people well qualified to be subsequently employed in teaching positions, they should rightly throw in the towel & close their doors!

That is a very good point. Reflecting upon my graduate school experiences shortly after entering the real world, I really began to view universities as research facilities dependent upon cheap, student labour and without much compassion for what happens to these students after they get their cap and gown. The bigger the research group, the more papers a professor can publish and that drives his research funding. This translates into department culture where it's the ability to publish that drives recruitment of new professors. The sad part is that many students are not aware of how competitive the real world is and what the challeneges are in finding a fulfilling career.

[middie]

Being so blinded by ideology generally prevents one from engaging in reasonable discussion on matters of public policy that are open to rational differences of opinion of ways, means and ends.

[litehaus]

Where's the SARCASM warning?..LOL...