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To: weegee
You like to divert, don't you.

The "right to heckle" is not the issue here, nor is the right of a comedy club to remove an unruly patron. What is being discussed is the injection of race into the heckling by an audience member of a comic. If this discussion was about whether Kramer should have stopped his show and asked for the heckler to be removed, then those would all be points to discuss. For this discussion, though, they are irrelevant and indicative of a mindset by you to find a way to excuse racist behavior, or nitpick the critics of it.

245 posted on 11/20/2006 12:07:45 PM PST by Defiant (Dems don't want to lose Iraq, they just want Hillary to win it and then fly onto a carrier.)
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To: Defiant
You are the one who said he was delegitimizing their right to speak out at the comedy club. They were not the entertainer and they were to shut up or be tossed out on their asses. They did not. Neither did the club owner.

Failing that there was a continuation of the lapse of civility that the AUDIENCE had brought to the show with the outbursts.
249 posted on 11/20/2006 12:12:43 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Defiant

There is an old tradition of comedians to go for the jugular when dealing with rude patrons. Some will even prod the audience with attacks (like Don Rickles and Rudy Ray Moore).

Doesn't mean what he was saying was either funny or appropriate. But where do you draw that line? If he had called a noisy woman a "b*t*h" would it have made headlines?


250 posted on 11/20/2006 12:15:57 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Defiant

It is really pathetic that some here are bringing up all manner of other situations in an attempt to dismiss the idea that what Richards said was bad.

Freedom of speech, double standards, heckler's statements, etc.; it boils down to Richards being a racist ass who doesn't deserve defending.


262 posted on 11/20/2006 12:29:12 PM PST by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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