Posted on 11/19/2006 4:43:19 PM PST by Reagan Man
I must have missed her campaigning for the job with "amnesty for illegals" as her on of her talking points. /sarc
Uh no, I am using facts and common sense. If immigration was such a big issue, then please tell me how Ms. Amnesty, nancy pelosi, became Speaker.
Uh you also do know that Reagan signed real amnesty in 86, also you do know that Milton Friedman was against the protectionist economics you preach.
You are dodging the question again!
I asked you if you favored amnesty for illegals....and you come up with this.
Do you really consider that to be an answer to a very direct, and repeated question?
One more time.
Reagan didn't support open borders. Reagan said: "A nation without borders is not a nation." Reagan did sign into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegals. It specified prosecution and punishment for employers who hired illegals. If that law was enforced, the IRCA of 1986 would have turned out to be what it was meant to be, a one time ONLY amnesty deal. Instead, the Feds lack of enforcement led to a ongoing series of liberal immigration policies under Bush41, Clinton and Bush43, that has led to the 10-15 million illegals we have living in the US today.
Reagan wasn't into repeating the mistakes of history,. Bush43 wants to ignore the 20/20 hindsight of history and grant amnesty to the 15 million illegals living in the USA today. How dumb can one be!
Indeed, voters voted exactly that. Whether they knew it or not that is exactly what will be the results of believing the RATS. What could be funnier than to believe that a party which planned, organized, staffed, directed, marched in, spoke for and spoke at the huge rallies in the Spring is ANTI-anti-alien?
It is just unfortunate that such mind-boggling ignorance and gullibility will be so costly and dangerous.
When the rallies were taking place I warned these were daggers the RATS would use to hurt the GOP. As I predicted the ensuing firestorm of hysteria and hatred they raised (achieving their perpetrators' goals in spades) against the GOP here helped defeat the party.
It is remarkable how so-called conservatives can be manipulated so easily by the Party of Treason/Treason Media.
Is that why he also gave support to the Brady gun control bill.
A failed experiment.
That, along with the fact that the majority of Americans oppose it, makes Bush's push for amnesty even more unconscionable.
Hayworth, a six-term incumbent representing Scottsdale, Tempe and parts of Mesa, Phoenix and Chandler, was dogged all year by ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Forti added that when he mentioned Hayworths scandal factor he meant that by election day, Democrats and others had successfully painted the Republican as a candidate entrenched in political wrongdoing.
----snip----
http://www.loftydonkey.com/article/149/gop-spokesman-hayworth-lost-race
Most all the Democrats ran on illegal immigration enforcement. All were moderates or so called "conservative democrats".
You aren't going to convince anyone around here that illegal immigration is not a strong issue.
Why did Arizona pass 4 initiatives against illegals with a 70% margin?
Why are municipalities all over the country passing ordinances against illegals?
Oh, cut me a friggin' break.
The GOP spent money like druken sailors, cavorted with K-street lobbyists, and come September of this year, all they could run on was that they weren't as bad as Democrats, but the GOPalogists point to a principled stand against illegal immigration as the reason they lost? This is the biggest bunch of hooey I've seen since Bill Clinton claim he didn't diddle the intern.
And their first vote in the 110th Congress is going to be for Ms. Amnesty, nancy pelosi.
Uh blow it out your butt Dane.
What that says to me is that the election was not about immigration. It was only about the lib media spoon-feeding the country anti-Bush anti-war anti-Republican messages for 3 years +. That's really the only issue that got the Dems out to vote and very little else. Our side sent various messages on the actual issues, but the Dems did not.
Its just getting harder to find a magazine worth reading...one that doesn't push the open borders agenda
And the democrats are going to be miserly with the Fed. budget.
If anything the democrats will be miserly with tax cuts, but will be like drunken sailors with tax hikes.
"I stopped watching Beltway Boys when I realized Mort Kondrake was starting to make more sense than Barnes"
Hahaha... that was awesome BW2221
FACT. In the next two years GWBush will sign into law the largest amnesty program in history, and 15 million illegals will become US citizens. Dwarfing the 2.7 million that Reagan granted amnesty to.
Here are Reagan's own remarks about the IRCA of 1986. Read them closely and stop obfuscating what Reagan was attempting to accomplish by signing that bill into law.
"This bill, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, that I will sign in a few minutes is the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952. It's the product of one of the longest and most difficult legislative undertakings in the last three Congresses. Further, it's an excellent example of a truly successful bipartisan effort. The administration and the allies of immigration reform on both sides of the Capitol and both sides of the aisle worked together to accomplish these critically important reforms to control illegal immigration.
"In 1981 this administration asked the Congress to pass a comprehensive legislative package, including employer sanctions, other measures to increase enforcement of the immigration laws, and legalization. The act provides these three essential components.
"Future generations of Americans will be thankful for our efforts to humanely regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people: American citizenship. "
Makes me wonder why that would be such a difficult question for you to answer.
In a way, your not answering is, in itself, a much bigger answer and explains many of your other posts/replies.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.