Posted on 11/19/2006 4:43:19 PM PST by Reagan Man
I haven't really looked it over but here's a chart of wins and losses.
In the primary we got rid of a pro amnesty RINO congressman and replaced him with an anti amnesty conservative who won in the general election. That's Tim Walberg who was one of very few endorsed by the Minuteman PAC.
http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/results2006.html
Not at all. But we should allow in whatever number that it takes to fill the jobs. Our unemployment rate is at nearly an all-time low, particularly in the border states, so there is no rational to keep people out. Attempting to keep people out who have a proven ability to get and keep jobs is the black market that our broken laws have created.
These people are going to be here, whether your or J.D. Heyworth likes it or not. So we'd best deal with them by IDing them, teaching them english, and pushing them to assimilate. As long as they stay in the black market, that will not happen, as we have seen.
The United States admits between 700,000 and 900,000 legal immigrants each year. It's not "impossible", it's just time consuming.
No.
How about taking that idea all the way home:
Make EVERYTHING legal and that way there would no longer be any crime.
Does Mexico have any responsibility in this debate?
Ok. Go arrest all 12 million illegals tomorrow. Where you going to put them? How are you going to feed them? How will you find workers to fill the jobs they now hold?
You're in a dream land.
Every person living in this country has broken laws. According to your logic, we should rigidly pursue and punish to the fullest extent every single citizen.
But that just isn't the way it works and I'm darn glad that it doesn't.
It's not like we are dealing with a bunch of peasants here ~ no we are not ~ they're smart and slick and aggressive.
You can't compromise with them.
I should have read the thread. Look at post #29. It gives you a list of the new members. I just checked the last name Yarmuth, a Dem, and googled him. Guess what, he is against illegal immigration. LOL. I'll check this list out tomorrow.
Yeah...maybe we should offer to copy their rigid laws regarding immigrants. Mexico wants us to do what they would never dream of.
I remember reading a post about Mexican immigration law and they'd scream bloody murder if we ever proposed such laws.
Yeah, to dump all its poor and disheveled into the US while it can.
And you think that it would be realistic to recreate a three thousand mile Berlin Wall across open deserts? Guarded by how many troops?
My point is that the border will be crossed. Right now, many illegals cross over every season. Should we lock the border much tighter, they will stay here year-round. You think that's a good idea?
That seems to be your solution and it seriously lowers my assessment of your ability to process information.
Hayworth, a six-term incumbent representing Scottsdale, Tempe and parts of Mesa, Phoenix and Chandler, was dogged all year by ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Forti added that when he mentioned Hayworths scandal factor he meant that by election day, Democrats and others had successfully painted the Republican as a candidate entrenched in political wrongdoing.
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http://www.loftydonkey.com/article/149/gop-spokesman-hayworth-lost-race
Most all the Democrats ran on illegal immigration enforcement. All were moderates or so called "conservative democrats".
You aren't going to convince anyone around here that illegal immigration is not a strong issue.
Why did Arizona pass 4 initiatives against illegals with a 70% margin?
Why are municipalities all over the country passing ordinances against illegals?
So you worked for free?
Even assuming your motivations were totally pure, don't tell me that if laws were passed tomorrow that made INS unneccessary that all INS employees would joyfully go home happy with the situation.
Your views on border issues are interesting. But I will keep it in mind that you have (or had?) a vested interest in keeping border issues in tension.
The Belin Wall was meant to keep people inside the Iron Curtain. Construction of a wall on the southern border with Mexico would be a defensive barrier to keep people out of the USA. Its part of our national security and something that should have been built right after 9-11. With a wall like the Israeli`s built on their western border, it wouldn't take any US troops to help in the operation. Just triple the size of the Border Patrol and the manpower will be available.
So then there is no border problem. Everyone who wants in, gets in. Right?
And please tell me how nancy pelosi's election helps their cause?
I can't help it if these voters cut off their nose to spite their face.
So, where is it you come down on this? Everyone should be in jail, or no one? Obviously you want one extreem or the other.
Yeah... we're solving their poverty, homelessness, etc. problems on the backs of our own citizens and some of our "leaders" like McCain think this is ok because there might be a vote or two in there.
After all of this, I'm starting to get a better realization of why we fought the Revolutionary War.
How many more years of thwarting the voters' decisions (especially by the courts) and twisting them by the politicians will it take before the next one?
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