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To: ruination

Sorry, but just because liberals abuse the text of the Constitution to create rights that don't exist doesn't mean what conservatives can do the same. The text is clear -- if you're born here, you're a citizen. Anything else is sophistry.


12 posted on 11/19/2006 4:10:41 PM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: tdewey10
Really?

"Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, stated in 1866, "Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

"The Fourteenth Amendment states,"(A) Persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."

However a proviso limits foreigners who have babies in America. It couldn't be clearer, children of foreigners, aliens or diplomats, who are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country, are ineligible for citizenship.

At the time the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified we didn't have immigration laws. One hundred and thirty eight years later we are paying for the misinterpretation of it."

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15 posted on 11/19/2006 4:31:08 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: tdewey10
Sorry, but just because liberals abuse the text of the Constitution to create rights that don't exist doesn't mean what conservatives can do the same. The text is clear -- if you're born here, you're a citizen. Anything else is sophistry.

I guess you haven't done much research on this, have you?

BTW, how would feel if Al Qaeda started bringing their wives in and giving birth to little terrorists? Would you wish to grant them citizenship?

52 posted on 11/20/2006 6:32:39 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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