[GSlob]

I look [or try to look] further than the draft numerical requirements vis. the numbers in the male age cohort. Increased societal cohesion means, among other things, that it would become increasingly difficult to lose a war - be it Vietnam war or WOT - through the domestic media. I look for the societal benefits primarily in this area. And the army would not be that large, either - ca. 3 million, with 2 yrs service.

[Cheburashka]

I look for the societal benefits primarily in this area. And the army would not be that large, either - ca. 3 million, with 2 yrs service.
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A draft means a cannon-fodder army. People by the hundred of thousands who do not want to be there. Casualties will skyrocket in combat because people who don't want to be there will not pay attention in training. Crimes against civilians will skyrocket as well. We will spend a fortune paying it, equipping it and it will be of less quality than the present. A poor quality army will detract from social cohesion, not add to it.

Actually social cohesion should result from teaching during grades 1-16. If it hasn't been taught after all those years then it won't be learned in a two-year stint as government-mandated cannon fodder.

And before you start talking about WWII, that proves my point. That army was educated before the school system in this country started dumbing itself down and teaching kids that AMERICA SUCKS!!!

As for the media, you don't understand them either. They no longer see themselves as Americans, but as "Citizens of the World" who just happen to reside and work in the United States. They will never support a war that is in the interests of the United States under any circumstances. Oh, they will tap dance around it, but they will never come down on America's side.

That doesn't mean they won't support a war. They were very happy with the war against Serbia, which was totally useless to the United States. You give them a big army they can commit to other useless wars and they will be in hog heaven.

I think all this talk of a draft is a trap set for well-meaning patriotic people who don't understand the real implications. If what I have written seems harsh, I'm sorry, but my message is: don't fall for it.

If you know any members of the military, ask them about whether they want conscripts in their units.

[cinives]

That's pretty funny, since we pulled out of Vietnam after the Dims defunded the war BECAUSE of the domestic and foreign media.

What would make it any different today ? The media is still against any military engagement we do unless it's under the aegis of a Dim president.

[steve-b]

Government Social Engineering Doesn't Work.

I Repeat:

Government Social Engineering Doesn't Work.

(thought there is a support site for people who think it does)