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Funny how the Dems did not mention during the campaign that reinstating the draft would be a number one priority.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way..."

And so what is the point here? I bet they would not have voted for WWII if women could have been drafted. So what?

1 posted on 11/19/2006 10:30:38 AM PST by Brilliant
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"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," said Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y.

Note to Charlie ("I am an arrogant NYer - which is why I do not live in Mississippi") Rangel: You are so right. Because they would not have the professionalism and dedication of today's voluntary force. When you go to war, you want to go with the best - which is exactly what we have today.


160 posted on 11/19/2006 11:56:40 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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Rangel: A bumbling idiot.


163 posted on 11/19/2006 11:58:34 AM PST by 2dogjoe (Have a Blessed Day)
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Let the record show that a leftist Democrat is advocating for a draft, not a pro=war Republican.
167 posted on 11/19/2006 12:01:20 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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I support the draft. I was drafted and I think those who were 1a or even 4f should serve in some capacity.

That way everyone has a stake in their country and its security.

The draft should include all services and all departments of government. Congress should not have staff, but drafted workers. The department of Interior, the Welfare department and so on should all use draftees.

Let's be fair. It is not just the military that makes this country strong so we should insist Congress use only draftees.


171 posted on 11/19/2006 12:03:28 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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Speaking only from my personal experience, I am strongly against the draft.

IMHO, the greatest untold story of the 20th century is the history of the American military, post-Vietnam to the end of the Carter Administration.

Despite the inept leadership under Jimmy Carter, and the social experiments played during that rudderless administration, the effort and leadership displayed by tens of thousands of young officers & non-coms made it work, somehow.

Looking back on my experiences, I keep asking myself, "how did we make this damn thing work?" Our equipment was aged and growing more obsolete by the day, we had shortages of funding for training and maintenance, and the standards for new enlistees were far below that required today.

As I reminisce about the absolutely superb officers & NCOs I worked with every day, I'm reminded of the words of the final scene in "The Bridges of Toko-Ri": "where do these men come from?"

It's only my opinion, but a return to the draft would undo all that was accomplished by all of those fine soldiers.

186 posted on 11/19/2006 12:12:18 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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So, two weeks after the election we are going to have a draft and amnesty.

This should be interesting.
191 posted on 11/19/2006 12:14:54 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Is Charlie saying that if we had not had a draft that Truman would have never contributed troops to the "police action." in Korea? IMHO, the basic problem was the troop levels established during the Clitnon administration. But, as Rumsfeld surely noticed, raises in troop levels do not automatically translate into more boots on the ground. Indeed, since world War II, the Army has become fixated on the the idea of a force with too much brass, too large a rear echalon, and machines rather than men. My guess is that if you look at the force in place in Southwest Asia that there are many officers and noncoms who are there just to punch their tickets.

But Charlie also forgets that the draft did not result in distribution of serve among the classes during the Vietnam War. The rioting about the war came because college men didn't want to leave the comforts of home and do their time. So I guess his desire is to prevent another "Iraq." by in effect diminishing our ability to go to war for any cause.


195 posted on 11/19/2006 12:19:28 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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The last time Rangle had sponsored a re-instatement of the draft, he ended up voted against it -- his own bill!

He's obviously one of the elite few idiots in congress that tries to out-do that other flip-flopper (which doesn't need naming).

197 posted on 11/19/2006 12:20:10 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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Let Charlie's bill go for a vote in the House and the Senate & lets see what happens?

Will Casey Jr, Obama, McCaskill and any other of our great Senators vote for the draft?


198 posted on 11/19/2006 12:21:00 PM PST by petkus
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This is like the 3rd or 4th time he trys this.


199 posted on 11/19/2006 12:21:08 PM PST by chemicalman (Kerry was wrong. The uneducated are not stuck in Iraq. Instead, they voted for Democrats yesterday.)
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I could support a draft...only if the name is changed to the Charles Rangel National Service Act.

heh-heh


201 posted on 11/19/2006 12:21:56 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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How surprising; the rats launch a "Bush plans to bring back the draft" scare during the 2004 election, and now when they have the Senate and the House, they're pushing for the very thing they claimed to be against.

What can you expect from the dems.


206 posted on 11/19/2006 12:28:12 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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Stupid is as....stupid is.


211 posted on 11/19/2006 12:31:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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Rangel, incoming chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments

So a black man wants to bring back a form of slavery.

217 posted on 11/19/2006 12:36:19 PM PST by mjp
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So if we have a draft, does that mean that illegals will take the jobs Americans won't be able to do?


223 posted on 11/19/2006 12:39:38 PM PST by Bush Revolution (You gotta believe)
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hey...take a peek: WHAT DEMS SAY ABOUT RANGEL'S BRIGHT IDEA
229 posted on 11/19/2006 12:43:12 PM PST by paltz
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"flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress" ?

uh . . so the CONGRESS voted for a war based upon clearly FLIMSY EVIDENCE ??


231 posted on 11/19/2006 12:44:08 PM PST by Twinkie (See MIA T. for the TRUTH . . . . IF you can take the TRUTH. . .)
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The United States military wouldn't be having a problem with troop shortages, if they the DEMS/LIBERALS didn't slash the military during the Clinton regime. The whole time Clintoon was in, the dems were reducing the numbers of forces and equipment. While the current war has going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush administration has had to try to build back up the military while fighting with the libs who refuse to spend more money on everything needed to support the troops.

This IS NOT something you will hear about from the MSM.
239 posted on 11/19/2006 12:48:29 PM PST by antiunion person (Give 'em an inch and they will take everything !!!!)
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Note to all: If you'veserved in the military, you've earned your right to an opinion on this issue. Knock yourself out.

If not, you have zero right to tell others they should be forced to serve. Join the military yourselves or shut up.


240 posted on 11/19/2006 12:48:50 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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there is a large pool of illegal immigrants who could earn their citizenship by serving, what about that charlie?


243 posted on 11/19/2006 12:51:26 PM PST by machogirl
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