[shrinkermd]

What they are claiming as a "defeat" is merely a serious effort by those losing power--the Sunnis--to hang on or return to power. They do this by suicide bombers killing civilians lined up for work, IED's on our soldiers and other means of dispiriting the civilian population both in Iraq and in the US.

The RATS want defeat little understanding the consequences there and here. Our enemies are formidable and especially those within "our gates."

[MeanFreePath]

The words "defeat" and "debacle" have to be defined pretty far down to apply either of them to the situation in Iraq. But, it appears our enemies are right about us. We just don't have the stomach for anything anymore...