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To: Popman
enough information to keep you awake at night.

I'm a little less than 100 pages into the book and it is frightening and depressing. According to Steyn, current demographics give the planet to Islam by mid-century. He sounds utterly defeatist so far -- by the end of the book does he offer any hope? They've taken over Europe without firing a shot.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 7:46:33 AM PST by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan
...by the end of the book does he offer any hope?

Yes, he has several very good suggestions what America can do.

They've taken over Europe without firing a shot.

Basically, that's his point, but that doesn't necessarily mean the modern muslin's will not fight back eventually. There is some small news that modern muslin's no longer are allowing the radicals to move push their ideology freely. The modern muslin's in Bosnia are fighting back by throwing them out of their country.

I use the word "modern" rather than moderate because their are no "moderate" muslin's. They either live in modern times or want to take us back to the 7th century

28 posted on 11/19/2006 8:23:19 AM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: McLynnan

There is no hope. There is no joy today.


39 posted on 11/19/2006 10:33:27 AM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: McLynnan
I'm a little less than 100 pages into the book and it is frightening and depressing. According to Steyn, current demographics give the planet to Islam by mid-century. He sounds utterly defeatist so far -- by the end of the book does he offer any hope? They've taken over Europe without firing a shot

You can see this one coming. Some EU country will have enough patriots lying dormant, and from them will come a hard line, charismatic leader that appeals to the underlying remaining natives, and they will respond to violence with violence, and so it goes.

45 posted on 11/19/2006 4:55:49 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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