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AMERICA'S MAYOR SEEKS LARGER EMPIRE (Giuliani as presidential candidate is scary)
NY POST ^ | November 19, 2006 | VOX POPULI (letters to the editors)

Posted on 11/19/2006 5:37:05 AM PST by Liz

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Who is going to run Giuliani's exploratory committee?....Bernie Kerik, Russell Harding, Richard Roberts and a list of assorted cons are available from Giuliani's group of yes men.

Giuliani’s gay worship is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage. In 1998, he pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender.

Then-Mayor Rudy gave homosexuals high-paid city jobs including the son of Liberal Party honcho Ray Harding (who endorsed Rudy and gave Rudy the Liberal Party ballot line). Russell Harding stole the city blind, giving himself unauthorized salary raises, stealing electronic equipment, enjoying gay porn, internet child porn, and traveling with gay friends on the taxpayers' dime. When appraised of the ripoff, and that Russell was being prosecuted, Rudy said he "felt bad" for the Harding family.

Rudy never deviated from the liberal drill and dared not uter a discouraging word about the depraved Russel, lest Rudy alienate big buck homosexual and liberal donors and voters.

However, even though he had no legal or official mandate to do so, Rudy never hesitated to use his office to marginalize and demean conservatives and conservative values.

Rudy promoted his ex-driver---Bernie Kerik---for Homeland/Sec Chief. Kerik's nomination flopped b/c of his shady background, an illegal nanny problem, and for using an official post-9/11 pad for extra-marital trysts. Kerik later pleaded guilty to having mob connections.

1 posted on 11/19/2006 5:37:09 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

So, just how is this liberal Democrat going to get the Republican nomination? He's the MSM's fallback position if McCain doesn't get it.

Big media took out George Allen; wow, did they do a number on him.

Conservatives better find a candidate.


2 posted on 11/19/2006 5:39:27 AM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

If liberals are thinking this, then Rudy must be the man.


3 posted on 11/19/2006 5:42:43 AM PST by native texan
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To: Liz

Gun grabber.


4 posted on 11/19/2006 5:48:49 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: kjo

"Conservatives better find a candidate".



Would it do any good? I appears to me that the deal has been cut, already. Rudy has payed his dues, by pretending to be a Republican, for a few years, that seems to count more than my actually being a Republican, for almost 50 years. Screw them and the horse they rode in on!


5 posted on 11/19/2006 5:48:59 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The rinos will put Romney up for nomination as well cuz.


6 posted on 11/19/2006 5:50:08 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Liz

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18106


7 posted on 11/19/2006 5:50:49 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: kjo

Another Freeper post of Rudy bashing.

Rudy is liberal on many social issues. I am a libertarian and don't have a problem with that, even though I don't agree with him on some things. I don't like the positions that he took on gun control, but consider that the New York Law has a strict law that he was sworn to uphold. As a candidate for President, he would need to address his position on Federal Law. I'd like to see how he comes out on that issue.

On the issues that rate high for a President, Rudy is conservative: National Security and Defense; Homeland Security; Law and Order; fiscal responsibility; and leadership (he wrote a book by that name=he has it).


8 posted on 11/19/2006 5:51:08 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Haley Barbour and Mike Duncan are going to be the new standard bearers of Conservatives.

Barbour has some name recognition. Question is how clean is he?


9 posted on 11/19/2006 5:52:28 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: Liz

When a man has control over the nuclear weapons and the choice is between an insane senator or a sane ex-mayor the other issues seem to take a back seat.


10 posted on 11/19/2006 5:53:41 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

On the issues that rate high for a human being, Rudy Giuliani is lacking moral character. Just look at his personal life and the characters he chums with, like Bernie Kerik.


11 posted on 11/19/2006 5:53:45 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Liz

Hey Rudy!!

Look at FreeRepublic Poll on the side bar.

60% against
40% for

IMHO - Don't run and risk fracturing the party...

But do RINO's ever listen??


12 posted on 11/19/2006 5:53:53 AM PST by TOneocon
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"Question is how clean is he?"

On what?


13 posted on 11/19/2006 5:54:03 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

mPres Romney/Gingrich/
VP M. Steele/JC Watts
Homeland Security, hire JD Hayworth, he has no job


14 posted on 11/19/2006 5:54:06 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: Liz

Scary because....

Consider the alternatives. You can't beat a scary someone with someone even more scary. Consider the 1964 Presidential race, when LBJ, a very scary person already, was building his entire legacy on that of JFK. The very thought of how LBJ may have been involved in the actions that catapulted him to the Presidency, and the cavalier attitude when confronted by challenges to that exalted position, is enough to bring doubt to the most trusting of people.

To boost his own standing, LBJ started the campaign of "scary Barry", and topped it all with the little girl picking daisies, who disappeared in the mushroom cloud. This was probably the epitome of negative campaigning, and it was wildly successful.

I was told that if I voted for Barry Goldwater that year, taxes would rise sharply, there would be widespread civil unrest, the war in Viet Nam would expand, and I would probably lose my job.

I voted for Barry anyway, and sure enough, every one of those predictions came true.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 5:54:21 AM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Only Rudy could make me a McCainiac. The nice thing about Mad Mc is that he'll be forced to pick a Rightist Veep . . . and I doubt Mc lives until 2017.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 5:54:34 AM PST by BroncosFan ("Now we grieve, 'cause now it's gone / But things were good when we were young.")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Screw them and the horse they rode in on!

Rudy would likely try to make that legal.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 5:55:20 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Rudy Giuliani is effectively, if not intentionally, a stalking horse for Mrs. Bill Clinton. If he gets the nomination Mrs. Bill will certainly win. If McCain gets it then she will only probably win.


18 posted on 11/19/2006 5:55:28 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

New York's law is not Constitutional, to begin with. You do not swear to uphold anything you don't believe in.
Rudy has done more than just "uphold" the unconstitutional crap, he has expanded it.
You can pick your issues that define "conservative", I'll pick mine!


19 posted on 11/19/2006 5:57:27 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

He should run on the Liberaltarian party ticket.


20 posted on 11/19/2006 5:57:29 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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