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Republicans plot to bring down Pelosi ... and Clinton with her
Sunday Telegraph ^ | 11/19/06 | Hans Nichols and Philip Sherwell in Washington

Posted on 11/18/2006 5:33:09 PM PST by bruinbirdman

New Speaker's embarrassing week has made it easier for her opponents to attack

Republican strategists plotting their party's comeback after it lost control of Congress have identified the "first lady" of Democrat politics as a key target in the 2008 White House campaign — even though she will not be running.

Senior party operatives told The Sunday Telegraph that they are already co-ordinating plans to attack Nancy Pelosi, the liberal Californian congresswoman and Speaker-in-waiting who suffered a damaging rebuff from her own party caucus last week.


Nancy Pelosi ranks second-in-
line to the presidency after
Dick Cheney

The Republican strategy is not only to undermine Mrs Pelosi's control of the House but also to associate her in voters' minds with Senator Hillary Clinton, the frontrunner for the 2008 Democrat presidential nomination.

"Two years of Pelosi gives a good idea of what four years of Hillary will be like," said Tom DeLay, the Republican powerbroker who ran his party in the House before he was caught up in a lobbyist corruption scandal. "They are both committed liberals and we will make that clear to the American people."

Mrs Clinton, 59, has yet to declare herself as a presidential candidate but has accumulated a vast war chest of campaign donations that would make her hard to stop if she decides to run for the Democratic nomination. Republican strategists are determined to prepare for the possibility well in advance.

Mrs Pelosi's opening-week blunders will make the Republican tactics easier to execute. Her ally John Murtha, a Vietnam veteran who is leading calls for an immediate US troop pull-out from Iraq, lost heavily in a party ballot for the position of majority leader, one rung down from speaker, despite Mrs Pelosi's heavy lobbying for him. That embarrassment presages the trouble she will have holding together the Democratic majority, whose members range from left-wingers from inner-city districts to centrist congressmen from suburban areas in the Midwest and West.

Mrs Pelosi, 66, who is married to a multi-millionaire property investor, will become the most powerful woman in American political history when the new House sits for the first time in January.

As speaker, she ranks second-in-line to the presidency after Dick Cheney, the vice-president. Her solidly liberal voting record during her 19 years as a San Francisco congresswoman have made her a long-time target for Republican strategists' attacks.

They now plan to focus on the difficulty she is likely to have in running the House, splits within Democrat ranks on Iraq and her boast that she we will oversee "the most ethical Congress ever" in the wake of Republican corruption scandals. "Pelosi has set the bar extraordinarily high for the conduct of her caucus, herself and even Hillary," said a former Republican House strategist.

Tony Coehlo, a former Democrat whip in the House who ran Vice President Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign, acknowledged his party concerns. "Even seasoned Democrats are concerned about the Republicans' ability to tar the polished Hillary by attacking Mrs Pelosi," he told The Sunday Telegraph.

"If Nancy does poorly, that hurts Hillary. That's really unfair, but that's what everyone thinks. That's reality. To help Hillary, Nancy has to be perceived as an effective leader and she's had a terrible start. It was just an awful first week."

A senior Republican operative who planned the damaging advertisements against Sen John Kerry, the Democrats' presidential candidate in 2004, predicted that it would not be easy to turn Mrs Pelosi into a surrogate target for Mrs Clinton.

"If Hillary has been able to separate herself from criticisms of her own husband, she'll try to do the same with Pelosi," he said. "She and her people are very smart and they will try to highlight the difference between the two women. You will see Hillary move more to the centre."

But a former strategist for a Republican House leader said: "If Pelosi comes across as not ready for prime time, that's going to hamstring Hillary. Fair or not, people can't help but make that comparison… Even Hillary's people are recognising that their fates are linked."

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To: labette
"Are you sure that's not for real?"

No, I'm not sure it's a parody!

Given the proclivities of many constituents in Pelosi's home district, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she is familiar with the S&M scene.

There are rumors I posted in jest on a related thread:

The rumor on Capitol Hill is that Pelosi wants "Aye" to be the "safe" word for her S&M legislative sessions with Republicans in the U.S. House. She will keep whipping them mercilessly for her weird and depraved liberal gratification until they scream Aye!

61 posted on 11/18/2006 6:41:20 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: AmericanMade1776

Why does she always look like Clinton (Bill or Hillary) just goosed her?


62 posted on 11/18/2006 6:44:06 PM PST by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Damn, we're good! Twelve days after the election and we've already got the plot figured out. Now if they'd just give us that whole 'what is the meaning of life' question, we could have it all worked out by Monday.


63 posted on 11/18/2006 6:44:13 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg

Of course we're still 11 days behind Pelosi, who started using the phrase "George Bush's failed policy on.. (fill in the blank)" on the day she was chosen.

Demos never plot, though, so I guess it was just an ad-libbed comment..... repeated 700 times over the next two years.


64 posted on 11/18/2006 6:49:08 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: george76
Ya know G. The pic reminds me of the mad hatter and his reckless rabbit side kick that took out the white rabbit's watch in Disney animated version of Alice in Wonderland during the tea party episode.
She acts very much like the wild rabbit. Stupid, breaks things, and reckless. I do hope the next two years will show the American voter why she is a royal *sshole at best.
65 posted on 11/18/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: bruinbirdman
"Senior party operatives told The Sunday Telegraph..."

Is this a joke? What 'senior operatives' would give a Limey newspaper an exclusive story and secrets of a party's political agenda?

66 posted on 11/18/2006 7:25:17 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: moonman

None of them Moonman, besides it could very well backfire. Trying to link Pelosi to Her Majesty Clinton could make Hillary look sane by comparison.


67 posted on 11/18/2006 7:31:10 PM PST by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Hello! We did'nt like Pelosi to begin with,why should we like her now?


68 posted on 11/18/2006 7:37:21 PM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: bruinbirdman

For shame, Republicans, for shame. How dare you plot to defeat Democrats! Is there no end to your evil Republican perfidy? Oh, the humanity!


69 posted on 11/18/2006 7:39:51 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: linn37

Exactly her father was the mayor of Baltimore with Alot of mob ties to unions and shipworkers. He was a skeeming oportunist. He is the reason that Baltimore is in its problem now, high crime rate etc.


70 posted on 11/18/2006 7:40:37 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: bruinbirdman

Pelosi and Hillary can be the new Ditzy Chicks.


71 posted on 11/18/2006 7:41:19 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: YdontUleaveLibs

I hope you are correct. I like your thinking.


72 posted on 11/18/2006 7:42:57 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: LiveFree99

Hillary wants Pelosi to go down. She wants Pelosi to identified with the far left wing of the party and negate the whole bunch before 2008.


73 posted on 11/18/2006 7:45:45 PM PST by Eva
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To: bruinbirdman


A Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
74 posted on 11/18/2006 8:08:56 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: bruinbirdman; Jim Robinson; gonzo
Good evening. I tried to join the VRWC after hillary identified it Jan 28 1998. Unfortunately, Mr Scaiffe (sp)wouldn't return my phone calls. Then I joined FR and Jim Rob didn't know anything about a VRWC. The whole incident was very disheartening.

No matter, methinks when Nancy Pelosi blinks, she will crack her forehead, and her brains (whatever is there that passes for brains) will fall out. Then somebody named Ren or Stempy will take over. I don't know, it's all so confusing to me...I'm like a breast feeding baby in a topless bar...

5.56mm

75 posted on 11/18/2006 8:16:42 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: bruinbirdman

Tom DeLay needs to seriously STFU.


76 posted on 11/18/2006 8:18:46 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The people have spoken.......the housecleaning starts NOW!!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Well, they could always try something different like good conservative government policy.

Of course, it would have been more helpful if they did that before the american people decided they wanted democrats versus wannabe democrats in power.

Attacking Pelosi is a mistake at this point in time (right after the election that put her in power). She'll self-immolate if you just leave her alone.


77 posted on 11/18/2006 8:24:01 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: bruinbirdman
How about a CAPTION THIS PIC!!!

"My Ex-Lax just kicked in... I have to go to the bathroom."

78 posted on 11/18/2006 8:24:22 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: bruinbirdman

BTTT


79 posted on 11/18/2006 8:27:58 PM PST by Chena (Our troops could teach you alot about determination, courage, and honor if you'd listen.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Pelosi is not even in the mainstream with her own Party.

???
She is the perfect example of the "mainstream" of the Democrat Party - - she's a jack-in-the-box socialist clown without a moral or ethical bone in her body.

80 posted on 11/18/2006 8:34:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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