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Ho Chi Minh Shadow Looms Large Over Bush (literally)
ABC News ^ | Nov 17, 2006 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 11/17/2006 11:00:07 AM PST by Ben Mugged

Ho Chi Minh, dead for 37 years, still shadowed President Bush practically all day.

Each of Bush's meetings Friday with Vietnam's president, prime minister and Communist Party chief took place beneath huge bronze busts of the revolutionary leader who later became prime minister and then president of North Vietnam. The setting produced some striking imagery and an interesting juxtaposition for Bush, who has made it a goal to spread democracy throughout the world.

At the presidential palace, Bush, his Vietnamese counterpart, Nguyen Minh Triet, and their wives sat in ornate white chairs in front of a large, red-and-yellow floral arrangement and beneath a large bust of the bearded Ho, who died in 1969.

The bust was mounted in front of a facsimile of the Vietnamese flag, a gold star on a field of red, and was flanked on either side by the flags of both countries.

Next week, Bush visits Ho Chi Minh City, formerly known as Saigon, in the southern part of the country.

In this image-conscious country, party leaders can speak freely and be heard, but not everyone here can hear the leader of the free world.

Throughout the day, reporters from both countries were allowed to hear remarks by Vietnamese leaders, but were forced to leave when it was Bush's turn to speak.

"Out, out," officials shouted to reporters during Bush's remarks at a meeting with Nong Duc Manh, general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bush; foriegnaffairs; vietnam
large bust of the bearded Ho

Pretty mush says it all......

1 posted on 11/17/2006 11:00:08 AM PST by Ben Mugged
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To: Ben Mugged
Oh man, that's nasty.
2 posted on 11/17/2006 11:03:12 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Got towel?)
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3 posted on 11/17/2006 11:04:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ben Mugged

Did he get to the museum that has Kerry's picture in it?


4 posted on 11/17/2006 11:04:39 AM PST by twigs
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To: Ben Mugged

Upstaged by a Ho? Who's handling his PR these days?


5 posted on 11/17/2006 11:05:18 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Ben Mugged
I was watching CNN early this morning, and they kept on talking about President Bush's first visit to Viet Nam. They must have mentioned that it was his first visit about five times in a row. I wondered why they thought it remarkable that it was President Bush's first visit, since it's not like American presidents go to Viet Nam frequently.

Then it occured to me that they were just being snide little pukes, and pointing out in their juvenile way that President Bush never "visited" Viet Nam during the war.

What a bunch of weenies.

6 posted on 11/17/2006 11:05:23 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Does it have to be McCain or Giuliani? Are we that pathetic?)
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To: Ben Mugged

"W" just keeps bumbling along. Why did he speak if reporters weren't allowed to hear his remarks?


7 posted on 11/17/2006 11:07:05 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Ben Mugged

Saigon...There thats better..


8 posted on 11/17/2006 11:07:31 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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9 posted on 11/17/2006 11:09:17 AM PST by zippy the razor
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To: Ben Mugged
["Out, out," officials shouted to reporters during Bush's remarks at a meeting with Nong Duc Manh, general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam.]

Vietnam is still a closed society. Lies and propaganda trump the truth. The government carefully manages the "news" and--with the help of the U.S. news media and Quislings like John Kerry--has revised the whole history of U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
10 posted on 11/17/2006 11:11:03 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Ben Mugged
If we win the War On Terror, which is still doubtful lest we slip the PC bridle and start KILLING our enemies,
Vietnam will get rid of those Ho's, and we finally will have won the Vietnam War too.
11 posted on 11/17/2006 11:16:29 AM PST by onedoug
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To: dc-zoo

Where is Ho Chi Minh City? I was in Saigon. Saigon will always be Saigon.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 11:18:08 AM PST by unkus
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To: Ben Mugged

He ain't a Divide'er hes a Unite'er...


13 posted on 11/17/2006 11:20:31 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: unkus
Where is Ho Chi Minh City?

"Oh, no, follow the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Follow the Ho Chi Minh Trail...."

14 posted on 11/17/2006 11:21:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bondjamesbond

In some circles it is suspected that while Bush may not have "visited" Vietnam, he may well have been "visiting" Cambodia and Laos. There is a gap in his military record that is typical of USAF officers who flew for the CIA's "Air America". Funny thing is that I usually get this rumor from lefties who think it's a slam on Bush to say he worked with his father's CIA. I think of it as high praise.


15 posted on 11/17/2006 11:22:30 AM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: Ben Mugged

When a world leader reviews the troops, he is honoring them.

I saw President Bush trooping the line this morning, and I realized that we have officially lost the Viet Nam war with his action.

My shame is complete.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 11:23:52 AM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: PeterFinn

Very interesting - of course it's just a rumor. I knew a guy once who had a brother who had been a Raven in Laos (and I know this to be an absolute fact - his brother was named in the definitive book on the Ravens). It would be an interesting historical footnote especially to all those who minimized GWBs NG service.


17 posted on 11/17/2006 11:26:18 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; PeterFinn

It would be even more delicious if he turned out to have been in (or over) Cambodia at Christmas 1970 or wheneverthehell it was seared (Seared!) into j f'n cary's brain.


18 posted on 11/17/2006 11:44:08 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: Ben Mugged
Aren't the Vietnamese people so luckly that leftists let the North "unify" the country? Yeah, they cared about the people of Vietnam like Mao cared about his peasants.
19 posted on 11/17/2006 12:45:19 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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