[karnage]

I don't know what evidence you have for your optimism. Every published account and analysis I have read adds up to one thing: Europe has surrendered. The Europe of Charles Martel and El Cid is dead. Welcome to Eurabia.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

They don't need to surrender. They've stopped reproducing.

At their current replacement rate (1.1-1.3 per couple), Europe's population will shrink by roughly half with each generation.

They'll mostly be gone within my grandkids lifetime.

[freedom moose]

I agree with this
They know now what the Moslems intend to do to them, and their sophisticated libertine society doesn't want head cloths and burqas.
As far as
Every published account and analysis I have read adds up to one thing: Europe has surrendered. The Europe of Charles Martel and El Cid is dead. Welcome to Eurabia.
I'd like to ask: just because it's published does it mean it's true?, have you been to Europe recently? Do you only read doom and gloom Europe threads on FR or do you actually try to see what's going on in Europe?, I've been to the USA many times and love it very much, I also see more women and men in traditional arab dress in the Newark airport or downtown manhattan than I ever see in Spain anywhere, and we're over-run supposedly.
Please don't think that I don't think islam is a huge problem for Spain (or Europe and the rest of the world) I do. And it must be addressed quickly and not with a lefty fruitcake solution. BUt as sunkenciv suggested, Europe won't accept the prohibition of all the things that make it Europe (for good and bad). Arabs haven't taken over and won't. Count on it.
I'm much more worried about Brussels and my own government than arabs.