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Al-Qaida "Planted Information To Encourage US Invasion"
Guardian ^ | 11/17/2006 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 11/17/2006 3:07:29 AM PST by Dallas59

A senior al-Qaida operative deliberately planted information to encourage the US to invade Iraq, a double agent who infiltrated the network and spied for western intelligence agencies claimed last night.

The claim was made by Omar Nasiri, a pseudonym for a Moroccan who says he spent seven years working for European security and intelligence agencies, including MI5. He said Ibn Sheikh al-Libi, who ran training camps in Afghanistan, told his US interrogators that al-Qaida had been training Iraqis.

Libi was captured in November 2001 and taken to Egypt where he was allegedly tortured. Asked on BBC2's Newsnight whether Libi or other jihadists would have told the truth if they were tortured, Nasiri replies: "Never"....

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allibbi; iraq; libmyths; nasiri; omarnasiri; psyops; spy; yeahright
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1 posted on 11/17/2006 3:07:30 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
baloney.

A) it's the Guardian, B) it's al Quaeda.

Since when do two wrongs make a right?

2 posted on 11/17/2006 3:12:44 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: Dallas59

If that's the case, how come Nasiri didn't simply tell the intelligence agencies that he believed Libi was lying? Why wait until now?


3 posted on 11/17/2006 3:15:19 AM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: Dallas59

Yeah right.


4 posted on 11/17/2006 3:15:19 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: the invisib1e hand
A) it's the Guardian

LOL. My wife, still laying in bed asked, "Who wrote that POS article, The Guardian?" when I read the headline.

5 posted on 11/17/2006 3:22:09 AM PST by metesky (My investment portfolio is holding steady @ .05? a can.)
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To: Dallas59

I'm not convinced.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 3:23:03 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: Dallas59

Well Blair and Bush planted false info to encourage the invasion, I can't see why AQ didn't have a go too!


7 posted on 11/17/2006 3:24:50 AM PST by AngloSaxonChristian
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To: the invisib1e hand
As it appears, AQ has more credibility than the Guardian. I do remember AQ stating they wanted to attack us in America and abroad. In that case they did not lie.
8 posted on 11/17/2006 3:25:25 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: Dallas59
This Nasiri guy must be Ramsey Clark's mouthpiece of choice lately...

Asked on BBC2's Newsnight whether Libi or other jihadists would have told the truth if they were tortured, Nasiri replies: "Never"....

Well if that's the case, Nasiri, explain how come all that lying your jihadi friends are doing to our interrogators [torture or not] is resulting in the coalition rounding up thousands of your weenie brethren around the globe?

9 posted on 11/17/2006 3:31:18 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Dallas59
Colin Powell, secretary of state, in his address to the security council in February, 2003, [] argued the case for a pre-emptive war against Iraq.

Though he did not name Libi, Mr Powell said "a senior terrorist operative" who "was responsible for one of al-Qaida's training camps in Afghanistan" had told US agencies that Saddam Hussein had offered to train al-Qaida in the use of "chemical or biological weapons".

What is new, if Nasiri is to be believed, is that the leading al-Qaida operative wanted to overthrow Saddam and use Iraq as a jihadist base. Nasiri also says that part of al-Qaida training was to withstand interrogation and provide false information.

I wouldn't trust the Guardian as far as I could spit on it, which isn't very far... but the question isn't whether someone from Al-Qaeda said things abont WMDs in iraq (which they did), it's whether they did it deliberatly to foment a war... which I think is possible though unlikely (they actually did personally hate Saddam - at least before he starting invading places !|). Let's face it, the bad intel had to come from somewhere.

10 posted on 11/17/2006 3:31:33 AM PST by JedForbes
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To: AngloSaxonChristian

No they didn't.


11 posted on 11/17/2006 3:32:20 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Dallas59

New lib storyline: al Qaeda tricked Bush & Co. into invading Iraq.

Anything to get the House Dems out of the spotlight.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 3:33:50 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: JedForbes

We need more Ham in our "torture" techniques...


13 posted on 11/17/2006 3:44:25 AM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: Dallas59

If AQ "tricked" the US into a war in Iraq, you have to wonder why. AQ has supposedly lost substantial numbers, including some key leaders in Iraq.


14 posted on 11/17/2006 3:48:18 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: AngloSaxonChristian

Why don't you tell us just what information Bush and Blair "planted" in order to justify invading Iraq?

Maybe you hadn't heard but Joe Wilson told our Congress privately that Iraq WAS trying to purchase yellowcake uranium from Niger. Of course, he lied and told the American public something else again. All in order to sell a book.

So spill. Tell us specifically what lies Bush and Blair told. I'll bet you can't.


15 posted on 11/17/2006 3:54:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: JedForbes
Let's face it, the bad intel had to come from somewhere.

I don't know if this is correct, but I believe Bush has all along been fighting two wars. One abroad and one here at home at STATE DEPT. Because his insistance on being MODERATE, he just won't go in for the kill, and that's his fault. We are not fighting a conventional war over a piece of dirt, these wars are spiritual, fight to the death. Because the fight is with terrorist and the secular culturist there will be no surrender unless WE do. If anyone should know this, it should be Bush.

Someone set this adminstration up and has taken advantage of Bush's compassion.

16 posted on 11/17/2006 4:00:07 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Thrownatbirth

That would replace the old headline, which was "Iran tricks Bush and company into invading Iraq." (That's what the Washington Post was reporting a couple of years ago; supposedly Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress fed our intelligence agencies lies about Iraqi WMD and so forth, and supposedly Chalabi is an Iranian agent. Iran would do such a thing to get rid of Saddam, to free the Iraqi Shiites, and to get us bogged down so that we couldn't attack Iran.)


17 posted on 11/17/2006 4:00:21 AM PST by megatherium
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To: Dallas59

If al Qaeda was not in Afghanistan, then how did they plant the information?


18 posted on 11/17/2006 4:10:38 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: AngloSaxonChristian

While I question this statement you just made - where's your evidence?? - I have to say, enjoyed some of your posts on other threads.

Yes, I was checking you out as you're a relative newbie.

Good luck getting people to use correct terminology! Scotlander and Scotch, eh? And I thought it was a Liverpool kiss??

Are you on the Ireland ping? You might be interested in some of the articles Irish_Thatcherite posts.


19 posted on 11/17/2006 4:20:28 AM PST by elc (Slingin' away)
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To: Dallas59

please consider the source its the way way way left wing rag called the guardian for god sakes.


20 posted on 11/17/2006 4:24:02 AM PST by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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