Posted on 11/16/2006 9:55:21 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
German shipbuilders reject Greek criticism of high-tech submarine
Published: 11/16/2006
Hamburg - A German shipbuilding company rejected on Thursday Greek criticism of an advanced fuel-cell-powered submarine, the Papanikolis, that has been bought by the Greek Navy.
An Athens official said earlier in the day Greece was refusing to take delivery of the 65-metre-long submarine, which has a displacement of 1,700 tons, because it did not meet "international standards."
In Hamburg, the ThyssenKrupp company said the Papanikolis had been the prototype of the new Type 214 series and various problems had emerged during a year and a half of testing it at sea. These had been fixed.
"Technically, it meets the agreed terms, and it is a very good submarine," said a company spokeswoman.
The Papanikolis is the first of four submarines of the type being sold to the Greek Navy. The other three are to be built at Hellenic Shipyards near Athens. The Type 214 was developed for export and has some similarities to the Type 212A supplied to the German Navy.
The hybrid power includes a fuel cell so that the submarines can remain under water for many days at a stretch.
Greece`s deputy government spokesman, Evangelos Antonaros, said earlier Thursday that Athens would not accept delivery of the vessel unless it fulfilled all the requirements and international standards.
Greek news reports earlier said there had been a row between the Navy and the suppliers.
Page on Type-214
http://www.tk-marinesystems.de/index.php?level=4&CatID=101&inhalt_id=177&product=30&subprod=8&detail=12
Check out this e-bay type site where you can buy a Mobile Coastal Defense Ship (small helicopter carrier) for about $45 million:
http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/13323237/Sell_Mobile_Coastal_Defence_Systems_The_Mcds_Ship.html
The Greeks didn't want a sub but a gyros instead... with all the toppings.
Did someone say, "gyros"?
http://americanautogyro.com/
http://www.pra.org/
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Do I read correctly, do they have a Stirling cycle boat, the Gotland? How do they do that?
It's Sweden which has 3 Sterling AIP equipped Gotland class boats-they are older than these German vessels.These German subs with their fuel cell AIPs are more quieter & have more endurance than the Swedish ones.The Swedish AIP system has been brought only by Japan as of now,while atleast 5 nations have signed up for the German system.
Kockums which designed & built the Gotland class,is now a fully owned subsidiary of HDW,which builds the Type-212 & 214 class.
how do they heat the air?
1.Basic info on how the Swedish system works
http://www.kockums.se/Submarines/aipstirling.html
2.On the Siemens system
http://www.industry.siemens.de/data/presse/docs/m1-isfb07033403e.pdf
Interesting.
If the Greeks back out of the deal I'm sure the Germans wouldn't mind selling it to the Iranians.
I buy all my subs
domestic. We do it right.
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That's highly improbable, concerning the last deal.
Actually many nations would love to get the Type-214,Iran would have to stand in the waiting list!!
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