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To: pepsionice
This is the point I was attempting to make.

I advised both of my children before they went off on a life of their own, in this case away to undergraduate studies, that when they encountered authority under the cover of uniform, the process was first comply and then communicate starting with "Yes sir".

One listened and one didn't. The one who didn't, an amateur attorney with sophomoric knowledge and vibrato, first found himself on the ground and then, 12 hours latter, asking a friend to pick him up from the local lockup and then, 6 weeks later, explaining to a Superior Court judge why he had acted so recklessly.

Although not in attendance, the video reminded me of what must have transpired when a foolish, intoxicated, college freshman accused a local police officer of trespass while that officer was trying to disperse a rowdy group of student drunks from the interior court yard of a large apartment complex in Isla Vista, CA.

I might add that two years later, that same young man, stopped just at dusk by a traffic officer in a sister jurisdiction for an inoperative tail light was given a rare courtesy ride to the nearest public transportation after his vehicle was impounded because the officer determined that every document (driver license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance) associated with legally operating a motor vehicle on the streets of California was not in order. Again, weeks and hundreds of dollars were involved in rectifying the neglect of detail, but the young man did get a courtesy ride because he had learned a valuable lesson and began the process that evening with "Yes ma'am."

204 posted on 11/17/2006 4:26:16 PM PST by Amerigomag (Don't blame me. I don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Amerigomag
I had heard the audio of the incident. The blood curdling screams of this individual were incredible. That very scream brought on the actions of the guards. He goaded them. I have had experience as both security manager and security guard. No, no bloomin' tasers then.

I humbly submit to all and sundry. Teach 'em right. The old British Army maxim. "Obey orders, complain afterward". So easy. We have fools smart mouthing the American border officers- rarely tis' true.

All they needed to do was say- "Yes Officer, I have my citizenship with me....." etc. No, they got stupid. Just a little brisk words and told "return immediately to Canada".

It is all so darn easy.

The experts were burly middle-aged men ,sitting having coffee. They knew how to deal with recalcitrant punks in the mall where I worked. After the arrests were over

None ever assisted. Laughs

209 posted on 11/17/2006 9:33:18 PM PST by Peter Libra
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