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Perfectly Preserved WWII Tank Pulled from Peat Bog
Strategy Page ^ | 11/16/06

Posted on 11/16/2006 7:37:36 AM PST by pabianice

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To: Tallguy

I wish they had left it be for future generations.

Be much cooler in 1,000 years.


21 posted on 11/16/2006 7:48:41 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: pabianice
Mr Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.

I know there was a well preserved B-29 at the bottom of Lake Mead in NV. The fresh lack of marine life at that depth kept the aircraft, even the seat cushions, in great condition. This story, however, doesn't seem to fit the photos. According to the text, the tank was under 21 feet of water and 9 feet of peat. Was the lake drained?

22 posted on 11/16/2006 7:49:14 AM PST by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: GarySpFc
If this is a Soviet tank, then why does it have German markings?

Probably because the Germans took it from teh Soviets. Ammo and spare parts were probably easier to get for Soviet tanks than for German.

23 posted on 11/16/2006 7:49:55 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: mikeus_maximus
T 34's were to Panzers what Panzers were to Shermans

The Panthers were the best tank of WWII. T-34's were good (better than Shermans) but could not match 1 on 1 with a Panther (or Tiger) in any way (armor, firepower, etc). However - the Russians produced them in such numbers and deployed them in mass wave attacks that even losing the first couple (or more) to a Panther - they would get close enough and eventually destroy the German tanks...

24 posted on 11/16/2006 7:50:15 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: mikeus_maximus

T-34's were plentiful. When upgunned to the 85mm gun, they were very good but the Panthers had the edge.


25 posted on 11/16/2006 7:50:40 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pabianice
When NASA placed a side looking radar on the shuttle and scanned much of the planet below the shuttles orbit many interesting burried objects were found. The Nile river path which had shifted over the eons was seen under the desert sands, NASA didn't have enough money to "look at" all the images so they are stored in an archive in the University of North Dakota!, (real cold storage!).

I wonder how much of the weapons systems and supplies of the Africa Korps and the Allied Armies are preserved. Remember the lost B-24?

26 posted on 11/16/2006 7:51:10 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: pabianice

WOW, it's in such good shape except for a little rust.


27 posted on 11/16/2006 7:52:43 AM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

major treadhead ping....way cool!


28 posted on 11/16/2006 7:53:16 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: mikeus_maximus
Yeah, the T-34 was the overall best tank of World War II. Interestingly it was designed around the Christie suspension system that the U.S. Army had rejected in the early 1930s. Stupid move on the U.S. Army's part...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/t-34.htm

29 posted on 11/16/2006 7:55:05 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: pabianice

That is cool. I googled the bulldozer. It's not near as big as I thought it would be.


30 posted on 11/16/2006 7:55:53 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: GarySpFc

Captured by the Germans, re-marked for their own use.


31 posted on 11/16/2006 7:58:16 AM PST by LikeLight (Pelosi, YMB)
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To: Crawdad

"I'm going to get me a peat bog for storage purposes. Things really seem to keep well in one."


Excellent! LOL

Maybe you and I can go into business renting them as Self- Storage facilities!


32 posted on 11/16/2006 7:58:46 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: GarySpFc
"If this is a Soviet tank, then why does it have German markings?"

Sheesh... we wouldn't want to inconvenience you by actually requiring you to, oh, I don't know.... READ THE FREAKIN' ARTICLE!!!!

33 posted on 11/16/2006 7:59:42 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: mikeus_maximus

In my opinion, the Tiger was the best tank of WWII. The T-34 was a nasty suprise to the Germans when they first encountered it. The early version Panzer tanks had a hard time knocking it out, due to its thick, sloped armor. The T-34 had a great suspension designed by American Walter Christie and a powerful gun. The Tiger came along too late and in too few numbers to turn the tide. Its turret, manufactured by Krupps, was complex and needed a lot of scarce copper. Legend has it, a captured T-34 was taken to Germany for evaluation where it was deemed it would not pass German quality control standards.


34 posted on 11/16/2006 8:00:18 AM PST by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: mikeus_maximus

The Germans were especially impressed with the 34s sloped armor and used it on the Tiger II.
The Russians eventually improved their tactics, and also began turning out T-34s in large numbers from their factory in the Urals. At Kursk, German tanks and T-34s (a `light' tank) were fighting very close to one another: a Tiger with its 88 cannon could destroy just about any enemy at range (Wittman in France, June-July, `44) while the T-34s had to get closer. IMHO the T34 was probably the best all-around tank of the war.


35 posted on 11/16/2006 8:00:29 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: pabianice

WOW! I understand the T-34 was designed by an American and could have been our main battle tank.

Neat.


36 posted on 11/16/2006 8:01:58 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Crawdad

Near here we have windover bog, a rare neutral ph bog, where 7000+ year old human remains have been recovered, with the brains still exisitng in the skull. Some of the oldest human dna recovered. They appear at the lastest analysis to be related to european dna from north central europe. somedbody got hear without crossing the siberian land bridge evidently.


37 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:54 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: pabianice

Sounds like an advertisement for Komatsu equipment.


38 posted on 11/16/2006 8:04:08 AM PST by blam
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To: pabianice

Comrades - We are now A SUPERPOWER!!!


39 posted on 11/16/2006 8:07:28 AM PST by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: eyespysomething
Similar machine to what they used to pull it out. A dozer this size is generally relegated to pit 7 qrarry work, it's about at the limit for road transport.


40 posted on 11/16/2006 8:07:39 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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