The saving power of Jesus Christ is the only cure, the only hope...Any other attempted cure, or offered hope, will be like putting a Band Aid on a severed artery.
Will Obama offer the Gospel of Jesus Christ to Saddleback and those afflicted with HIV/AIDS?
Given his support of homosexuality, sadly, it does not appear that he will. How can he support the riskiest behavior and leading cause of the spread of HIV/AIDS and be asked to speak on the subject?
Due to his stance, he has no credility, or authority, on the subject.
"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?...Therefore come out from them and be separate,..." (2 Corinthians 6:14-17)
Warren, and Saddleback, should know better.
But we know that..."Of them the proverbs are true: 'A dog returns to its vomit,' and, 'A sow that is washed goes back to he wallowing in the mud'." (2 Peter 2:22)...It may just, possibly, be their very nature.
Sunsong wrote: "If you believe that someone is acting in a way that is wrong do what you can to educate them. No one becomes a better person by being treated cruelly."
In response: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to...You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. Woe toy you, blind guides!...You blind fools!...You blind men!...You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel...Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside will be clean...You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones...You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?" (Jesus, Matthew 23:15-33)
"holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme." (Paul, 1 Timothy 1:19-20)
A quote from Peter is above-mentioned.
I will take the examples of Jesus, Paul and Peter over the admonitions of one who does not claim Christ (or one who refuses to listen to "dogma" - otherwise known as Biblical Truth).
"As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer...They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm." (1 Timothy 1:3-6)
Some, like those that outright reject Truth, need to be refuted...not just educated.
Your first statement is easily refuted because suffering has been alleviated by people who have never heard of Jesus.
A friend was pointing out to me the similarity of extremist Christians and Muslims. Both believe that if you do not accept their book and their dogma you will be tortured in hell for eternity. The Islamists go a step farther and say, "why wait for the infidel to die - we will torture and kill them now."
God is Love. You show that you have no idea of Love with this way too long post. Please read the post saying that Sen Brownback will be speaking at the same conference as Obama and they will not be speaking from the pulpit.
Then let's see if you have the integrity to apologize?