"You know what I think. I think you're a closet liberal."
Yep I am a pelosi plant.
Is it even remotely possible to have a debate on a presidential contender around here without being labeled a liberal because we disagree?
"Reagan didn't have control of the House, that means he didn't have control of the purse strings. Yet Reagan was able to reduce welfare state expenditures by some 4% a year over his eight years in office."
I said going back a decade. Today's Republican Party and the Republican Party of Reagan and Gingrich are very different parties. Also don't forget Reagan had the support of "Reagan Democrats" in which were quite sizable giving him a defacto majority on a lot of issues.
From the end of the government shut down on it has been downhill for fiscal discipline in Washington and you know it.
Again if a Reagenesque conservative enters the race then I will most likely back him. But there ain't no one like that on the scene. So if it is between Giuliani or McCain then I am going Giuliani. You never no it could be like the 92' democratic primary where all the big candidates dropped out and a relative no body came along and took the nomination. It could happen to us this time around. But as of today my money is with Giuliani. As the race starts to get underway a year from now I may be backing someone else. If we cant debate who our leader is going to be without delving into paranoia and attacking each other then we are f**k'd as a party.
>>>>Is it even remotely possible to have a debate on a presidential contender around here without being labeled a liberal because we disagree?I'm very civil when it comes to discussing Gingrich, Romney, McCain and the others. Not when it comes to Rudy the liberal. Sorry.
>>>>Today's Republican Party and the Republican Party of Reagan and Gingrich are very different parties.
Wonder why? Reagan set the standard for conservatives, and Gingrich advanced the Reagan agenda even further. It was up to Bush to take it to the next level. Bush`s domestic agenda took the GOP leftward. Too much spending, expansion of the federal bureaucracy, increase in the welfare state and promoting liberal immigration reform.
>>>Again if a Reagenesque conservative enters the race then I will most likely back him.
That's good to hear.
>>>> ... if it is between Giuliani or McCain then I am going Giuliani.
That's not good to hear. Giuliani makes McCain look like a staunch rightwinger.
>>>>If we cant debate who our leader is going to be without delving into paranoia and attacking each other then we are f**k'd as a party.
Paranoia? LOL I'm not about to toss away my conservative principles, just because you've lost your mind. I was born and raised in Brooklyn of the 50`s and 60`s, and I grew up with guys like Rudy. I know what makes them tick. Rudy is a liberal to his core convictions. Rudy doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.