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Secret's Out For Saracens Sabres (Damascus Steel)
New Scientist ^
| 11-15-2006
Posted on 11/15/2006 11:04:58 AM PST by blam
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To: TXnMA
I attributed the scarf trick to special effects, (which were pretty primitive back then) -- but I always wondered...I once read about a Japanese 1930s propaganda film that showed a soldier with a samurai sword slice through the barrel of a machine gun.
To: blam
BFLR = bump for later reading
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:13:08 PM PST
by
Kevmo
(Charter member, "What Was My Login club")
To: blam
I'm having a Damascus daggerblade forged by a master bladesmith.
His Damascus is super tough and will hold an edge after severe abuse. It was promised this week but I'm not holding my breath.
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:18:21 PM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
To: RightWhale
In reverse, would a rope tied at lowr depths snap when the sub surfaces?
84
posted on
11/15/2006 6:25:02 PM PST
by
Bear_Slayer
(When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
To: Bear_Slayer
"In reverse, would a rope tied at lowr depths snap when the sub surfaces?" I could if it were tight enough.
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:29:21 PM PST
by
blam
(Old Sub Sailor)
To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"I once read about a Japanese 1930s propaganda film that showed a soldier with a samurai sword slice through the barrel of a machine gun." In my collection, I have a genuine, Pre-WWII Katana. It will shave at any point along its edge -- including the tip.
OTOH, I carefully clean and lubricate it anytime it is touched, and I certainly wouldn't maltreat it by whacking a gun barrrel with it. Japanese have real reverence for their blades; I can't imagine them mistreating one in such a fashion.
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:48:21 PM PST
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: camle
"...whenever I think of my lady, I walk on air!;-)" You, Sir, deserve the Chivalrous Remark of the Day Award!
87
posted on
11/15/2006 6:58:18 PM PST
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: RightWhale
The modern equivalent is folded steel. Heat, fold the steel, smash it flat and thin, heat it, fold it over, hammer it some more, and quench in a plump Nubian slave
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Wow; if that's the modern way what did they do in ancient times!
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posted on
11/15/2006 7:25:42 PM PST
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: LexBaird; TexanToTheCore
I still contend it is not the weapon, but the weilder which determines victory.
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Miyamato Musashi used a wooden practice sword to kill an armed samurai when he was 13 years old. I think I spelled his name right.
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posted on
11/15/2006 7:30:30 PM PST
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: camle
I'm just guessing, but I suspect she's feels the same about you. : )
90
posted on
11/15/2006 7:34:32 PM PST
by
skr
(We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
To: LexBaird
Thanks for the link! Jim's work is truly spectacular!
I started to go for one of his dirks, but I only wear the dirk for formal occasions (and I don't enjoy wearing it, even then...).
Now, a fine, patterned steel sgian dubh, I could really use... Heck, I'd probably even wear it with my Utilikilt when I don't feel like wrapping my fanny in eight yards of heavy wool Macpherson tartan...
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posted on
11/15/2006 7:39:07 PM PST
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: TexanToTheCore
"The Japanese sword was sharpened the same way as a knife, at a 9 to 10 dgree angle. "
More like a razor. General rule of thumb: Utility knife angle is 19-21 degrees, axes, 45 or greater, and razors about 10. Then again, I can shave with a knife at 20 degrees--right off the block.
The steel and its treatment has a lot to do with how well the edge holds.
Interesting about finding carbon nanotubes in the steel. I can see how this contributed to the flexibility. Some specialty steel company, if they let the researchers go hog wild, might find a breakthrough--such as single grain on the edge with a carbon nanotube matrix in the bulk of the blade.
Just ruminating here. Don't mind me.)
Good article.
To: blam
Didn't help them against those Mongol tumans.
93
posted on
11/15/2006 8:36:57 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: TXnMA
Kevin Costner did that same thing with a sword in "The Bodyguard" with Whitney Houston.
Who cares. We're talking about swords, f'r chrissakes, in the era of laser-sights.. Might as well talk about the relative merits of buggy whips.
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posted on
11/15/2006 10:36:40 PM PST
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posted on
11/15/2006 11:02:30 PM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
To: Joe 6-pack
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I once read about a Japanese 1930s propaganda film that showed a soldier with a samurai sword slice through the barrel of a machine gun. They tested this one out on Mythbusters recently. Needless, I hope, to say it was found that a sword cannot cut a gun barrel in half. Japanese propaganda was just that: propaganda.
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posted on
11/16/2006 6:33:33 AM PST
by
LexBaird
(98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
To: TXnMA
Thanks for the link! Jim's work is truly spectacular! Here is another. Oso was a student of Jim's. His work has generally fancier fittings, but similar pattern welded blades. I have a sgian dubh made by Oso in cable damascus.
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posted on
11/16/2006 6:41:42 AM PST
by
LexBaird
(98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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