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The current hardline position is not. I wished people would look at the Dems that rans against these guys and their immigration position. There seems some propaganda that keeps circulating that Haysworth opponent copied him on immigration. That not true

Haysworth opponent was very tough. Wnated big border security and really wants to fine Employers. He also talked about guest worker and pathway for those that paid a fine, learned English, were not violent felons, and held a job. This was different from Hayworth. People like programs that are tough but rational.

As to these amendsments many of them got vast Hispanic support. THe problem is that many of these hispanics voted for the Dem because ven though they are against illegal immigration they think the Tancredo approach is too hardline. We never listened to them. We ask for their votes on pro life issues etc but to listen to thme on this was called hispandering. I cant think of anything more insulting. Why would many hispanics would vote for a party where so many people in the party use the term hispandering. I am not saying we got no hispanic vote. But I think overall it was a turnoff. Last year was nasty and often the rethoric was over the top. We can expect some collateral damage from this

(Hayworth's opponent) wanted big border security and really wants to fine Employers. He also talked about guest worker and pathway for those that paid a fine, learned English, were not violent felons, and held a job

Thanks to Bush, many hispanics were so close to getting amnesty they could TASTE IT.

Thus, building a more secure border fence seemed radical to them, and they likely bolted to the Dems.

STOPPING this flood of illegals BEFORE we make any further decisions is the ONLY logical thing to do.

What's the sense in granting this, or helping that if the problem is only going to continue to get worst and worst.

WHAT THE HELL is so hard to understand about that?

Any Hispanic person who cant understand that likely was Democratic thinking in the first place.