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Hate Videos Of Muslim Group They Failed To Ban (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-15-2006 | Duncan Gardham

Posted on 11/14/2006 7:58:27 PM PST by blam

Hate videos of Muslim group they failed to ban

By Duncan Gardham
Last Updated: 1:58am GMT 15/11/2006

A Muslim organisation which the Government chose not to ban is preaching hatred and has infiltrated the Home Office, an investigation has revealed.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is showing inflammatory videos to small groups of followers then encouraging them to attack non-believers.

An HuT member has gained a job as an information technology worker in the Immigration and Nationality Directorate of the Home Office and been given a grant to organise an event for the radical group, it has been claimed in an undercover investigation by Vigil, a group campaigning against religious extremism.

In a mocked-up video shown to new recruits, a woman interrogator at Guantanamo Bay was shown wiping blood over the face of a prisoner to make him confess. A student in his twenties, who posed as a recruit to HuT, said: "The reaction was shocking.

"The group were clenching their fists and shouting, 'We'll kill her, how can you do this to our brothers? F****** kuffars [non-believers]."

"Afterwards the mushrif [leader] asked for our opinions and people seemed to think the British were the same, they were saying, 'A kuffar is a kuffar and f****** British troops, we have to do something.'

"They said, 'we have to attack from the inside' and I think they meant terror attacks."

The young man, who is known as Jay - not his real name – was forced to rob three people to show his loyalty to the group.

The group, which met at West Croydon Mosque, comprised five black and Asian men, aged between 18 and 28, most of them unemployed and four of them converts. Each group had a number and theirs was in the fifties. "They were thugs," said Jay, who spent six months with them.

Jay said the group were shown DVDs on three occasions, each accompanied by a talk by the mushrif.

The last showed a mock-up of soldiers attacking prisoners at Guantanamo Bay

"The last video was about 45mins or 60mins long and showed Americans beating and torturing chained

Guantanamo prisoners," said Jay.

"They told us what to obey and what to believe - it was like brainwashing.

"They tell you that they are allowed to hurt the kuffar, do whatever they want if they feel like it and they'd say, 'let's go out and beat someone up and take their money.'

"If they're not stopped somebody will get hurt."

Patrick Mercer, Conservative security spokesman, said of the investigation, screened last night on BBC2's Newsnight: "We need legislation that allows us to deal with these groups in whatever guise they appear.

"If it can be proved that they are doing wrong they should be banned and any individuals associated with them prosecuted."

Hizb ut-Tahrir was omitted when new legislation banned other radical groups, making it a criminal offence to belong to them or organise a meeting to be addressed by a group member.

Although the group claims it is non-violent, their website advocates the introduction of shariah law and adds: "We begin fighting the enemy even if he did not start fighting us."

Last night the group said in a statement: "We do not advocate or otherwise promote the use of violence or any criminal activity against civilians in the UK or anywhere else in the world."

TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurabia; fifthcolumn; hate; hatespeech; hizbuttahrir; islam; islamicsupremacists; islaminengland; muslims; uk; videos; wot

1 posted on 11/14/2006 7:58:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Banning hatred is banning the essence of islam. It's religious discrimination.
2 posted on 11/14/2006 8:02:56 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: blam
"We begin fighting the enemy even if he did not start fighting us."

Need to make up some flyers and staple them to the foreheads of a few liberals who just don't get it.
3 posted on 11/14/2006 8:04:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: blam
The last showed a mock-up of soldiers attacking prisoners at Guantanamo Bay

They were outraged by a work of fiction created by their OWN side...?!

4 posted on 11/14/2006 8:04:17 PM PST by gaijin
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To: blam

Islam is evil.

5 posted on 11/14/2006 8:35:58 PM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: cripplecreek

The 9-11 attacks did not happen because we were fighting a war that we shouldn't have been. The 9-11 attacks happened because we were NOT fighting a war that we SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

6 posted on 11/14/2006 10:02:40 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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