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Immigration Enforcement Still a Winner
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| November 13, 2006
| Jessica Echard
Posted on 11/14/2006 3:32:53 PM PST by Dane
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In Hostettlers case, his opponent, a county sheriff, had this to say about the crisis of illegal immigration: Its also not right when an Indiana employer passes over an American for a job only because an illegal worker is cheaper. We need to tighten our borders, enforce the laws we have, and punish employers who break them. I dont know that a candidate talking like that could get the Big Business endorsement. So please tell me Jessica, why is Hostettler's opponent(IIRC, his name is Ellsworth, you should have included that in your article, Jessica), as his first vote in the 110th Congress is going to be for nancy pelosi as Speaker.
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11/14/2006 3:32:54 PM PST
by
Dane
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
To: Dane
This article is baloney. All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:38:38 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
To: Dane
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:44:23 PM PST
by
lesser_satan
(EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
To: Peach
Baloney, Many many people care about this issue. Even a lot of the leftest liberals are ticked off with open boarders.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:44:53 PM PST
by
Revel
To: Peach
So Dewine, the pro amnesty Sen lost, and Hostetler was out manuevered by a even stronger anti illegal candidate so it would seem to me the myth is quite dead.
We need a broad discussion on the subject..badly.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:45:10 PM PST
by
padre35
To: padre35
So Dewine, the pro amnesty Sen lost, and Hostetler was out manuevered by a even stronger anti illegal candidate so it would seem to me the myth is quite dead. Uh Dewine was replaced by the much more liberal sherwood brown, and the guy who defeated Hostettler, Ellsworth, will be voting for nancy pelosi, as his first vote in the 110th Congress.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:48:19 PM PST
by
Dane
("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
To: Revel
Once liberals realized that the illegals were draining beloved social programs, they got mad.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:51:41 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
To: Revel
Haven't you seen the polls? Every single poll I've seen, including Fox News, the highest this issue received for concern was 9-11%.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:54:00 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
To: Peach
All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. So did a lot of Republicans who didn't make immigration an issue.
I believe the immigration/open borders/amnesty issue would have been a winner for Republicans. But, the Republicans lacked a clear message, party discipline and the courage to bring this issue, in particular, to the forefront.
It's simmering out there, and the Party that gets it "right", will be the majority party in 2008.
To: Dane
So Dewine being pro amnesty did not help him at all.
Ellsworth has no other choice but to vote for Pelosi, and that isn't the point, Hostetler lost to someone who even stronger on border security.
All of this bickering back and forth accomplishes nothing BTW, what is the plan? Ignore any serious opinion that doesn't include total amnesty?
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:54:23 PM PST
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padre35
To: Peach
I've seen the polls at 84%. This is a bipartisan issue. Even the dems want something done.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:55:48 PM PST
by
monkeywrench
(Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
To: monkeywrench
If I were a Hispanic, and I heard that being in the country illegally would become a felony, I would vote against whoever proposed that just to avoid the hassle of being ID'd all of the time.
I also wouldn't forget the party that did that.
That is why I say tread lightly and come up with a principled plan that satisfies the majority of complaints.
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posted on
11/14/2006 3:59:46 PM PST
by
padre35
To: monkeywrench
Show me one single poll where Americans have been asked what concerns them most where the polls were at 84%.
When asked what concerns Americans most, it's always Iraq, the economy and a host of other issues. I've never seen it rank higher than 5th or 6th on the list and that's with 11% (max) of people saying it's a concern.
And I'll note that among the staunchest border control people, JD Hayworth and some other names I've forgotten now, they all lost the election. There was an article about this on FR a few days ago.
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11/14/2006 4:03:02 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
To: Right_in_Virginia
It's simmering out there, and the Party that gets it "right", will be the majority party in 2008. BTTT
To: padre35
That is why I say tread lightly and come up with a principled plan that satisfies the majority of complaints.
You can't please everyone. As the Republicans know well by now. They should concentrate on pleasing their base if they ever want back in power again.
To: Peach
And I'll note that among the staunchest border control people, JD Hayworth and some other names I've forgotten now, they all lost the election.
You obviously didn't read the article.
To: Peach
The polls are reflective of what politicians want people to fight about. Nothing more. I can remember congressmen saying 'illegal immigration' was the number one issue called over.
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posted on
11/14/2006 4:22:14 PM PST
by
monkeywrench
(Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
To: padre35
There's no plan to satisfy many of us, because they won't even talk about how much this is going to cost us. Some say 60 billion is a low estimate. I say forget about it.
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posted on
11/14/2006 4:23:52 PM PST
by
monkeywrench
(Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
To: Peach
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posted on
11/14/2006 4:27:05 PM PST
by
PghBaldy
(Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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