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To: indylindy
. You can believe your way, and thats fine, I also know those who think your way. It seems like transcending "smoke and mirrors" is a good place to start.


I think you are in error; I most CERTINLY do not believe the hype of the Democratic party leadership. I am merely talking about the reality on the ground. The ideologues of both parties seem to forget that the vast middle is rather fuzzy and driven by things besides ideological purity. As for me I only believe in concrete realities and one of those is that the GOP lost the 'Reagan Democrats' big time; the question is why and how to pick them back up without disheartening the 'base'.
To me the enemy is the 'with us or against us' mentality -it makes sense when referring to Al Queada, it reaps hatred and weakness when applied to fellow American Citizens with whom we happen to disagree politically.
590 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:03 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: RedStateRocker

The Reagan Dems voted for Reagan because they were tired of liberal candidates and came off a horribly destructive liberal president. Jimmy Carter(still destructive) I might add. They are merely being fooled now into believing in a pretend conservative Dem who will not be able to stand up against the Lib party leadership. Reagan never transcended his conservative values. With us or against us was in reference to the WOT. RINOS are fence straddlers and can't make up their minds about their core values. A lot of these people have been "no help" in the WOT. Look, I understand what you are saying, I did vote you know, in this last election. I believe that it can't get much worse than to put liberals in control, but I also understand why the RINO is irritating.


593 posted on 11/15/2006 8:16:08 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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