[misterrob]

Because of their rank opposition to the Patriot Act, their complaints about the NSA listing to international calls, their demands that we treat AQ members like US citizens with respect to constitutional rights, their constant undercutting of our soldiers on the front lines, etc. The Dems had their chances in the 90s and look at what it brought us. We got Jamie Gorelick's Wall, a president who wouldn't kill Bin Laden, a reduction in national intelligence assets and weakened military.

You don't have to like the Iraq War but the fact that we are fighting AQ and other groups that are enemies of the US should matter.

Homeland Security is important but sometimes you have to play offense as well.

[DCBandita]

Sorry for the delay - I have trouble following the thread in this format.

Specifically regarding the warrantless wiretaps - here's where I stand. If there was an insufficiency in the current law that oversees such activities (FISA), the administration should have gone to their own legislative leadership and asked that the insufficiency be addressed. There was a legal way that this could have been addressed yet the administration ignored the appropriate CONSTITUTIONAL checks in place and violated the law in so doing.

Do they need to listen to these calls? Fine. Go to your own leadership (the Congress was and still is Republican-controlled) and pursue a legal, legislative way to close the gap. THAT is what the so-called "left" would like to see. Not a cease and desist - a legal way that adheres to Constitutionally designated powers to write and pass legislation.