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A Question from a Webb Supporter
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita

The announcement by McCain, who has put together campaign organizations in many of the states with early nominating contests, was widely expected. The intentions of Giuliani, who has been less active in early organizing, had been less clear.

Giuliani's campaign team said the committee was simply an opening move designed to keep his options open, with a final decision still to come.

"This filing affords him the opportunity to raise money and put together an organization to assist him in making his decision," Giuliani adviser Anthony Carbonetti said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: conservatives; neocons; theocons; zot
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To: mrsmith
"Pro sportsmen" was Webb's own description of his views during the campaign. Of course he will vote as he is told or allowed. Which makes him "anti-gun" in fact.

Check out Webb's answers to the the NRA Questionnaire. It is very impressive: he is in almost complete agreement with the NRA, right down the line. He says the 2nd Amendment is an individual right; favors CCW reciprocity; opposes international agreements which would infringe on the RKBA; opposes gun confiscation and bans on weapons; opposes waiting periods; opposes government retention of records; opposes firearms licensing and registration; opposes restrictions on 50-caliber firearms ownership; supports the use of deadly force to defend against criminal attacks; etc. He's a long-time NRA member and handgun enthusiast who shoots at NRA ranges.

Sounds pretty damn good to me.

481 posted on 11/14/2006 7:26:09 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: therut

Not for nothing - but I would check the current makeup of the state legislatures before making that kind of statement. You might find your prospects less appealing via that route if so.


482 posted on 11/14/2006 7:26:29 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: therut
Let me tell you as a physician about partial birth aboritons in the 3rd trimester.

Finally a doctor that may be able to answer this. In all this time we have been told that the partial birth abortion has to be protected because of the threat to the mother's life without it. Could you explain to me how after delivering the entire baby EXCEPT the head that delivering this last and smallest part would/could endanger the life of the mother. I mean I know, you'll say "well it doesn't", so I'm just curious how "they" can hold on to this concept without it being questioned.

483 posted on 11/14/2006 7:28:16 PM PST by mupcat
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To: IslandJeff

Not offensive at all, and thanks for the comment. I disagree about the political center, however, and it is to that which I was referring.

And frankly, I'm nothing if not sincere.


484 posted on 11/14/2006 7:29:15 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: ansel12; DCBandita
Amen. Bandita, there is an unwritten rule here on FR that we don't have to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with us on every single point. Please register as a Republican, mail a copy of your registration to the Administrator and then you can post here. In fact, you can even be a liberal, pro-abortion to the point of killing full grown men and women and for changing our name to the United States of Mexico just so long as you are a Republican.
485 posted on 11/14/2006 7:29:35 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're Wrong?)
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To: JCEccles

Or... they could be Nobel laureates in Economics, but what's that worth, right?

I don't think I ever suggested socialism, so I'm not sure why you brought it up. Generally I'm not a fan of socialism. And you should actually read my comments and stances on taxes - this may illuminate your otherwise flawed characterization of my viewpoint on the subject.


487 posted on 11/14/2006 7:31:11 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita
I would wager that the pro-life set would be roundly unhappy with the outcome of submitting it to public referendum

Your suggestion that most posters on FR oppose sending the abortion issue back to the public square, and away from Robe fiats, to be fought out at the ballot box, is the most singularly errant statement that you have made to date. Most here favor precisely that. I have the same opinion about gay marriage, which increasingly fascinates the Robes. I favor legalized gay marriage as a public policy matter, but only via the public square agreeing with me.

Robe fiats on these matters are toxic to the public square, and why it is so angry and fixated on these issues. If the public square fought it out, and fashioned varying compromises over time, much of the toxicity would fade away.

Think about it.

488 posted on 11/14/2006 7:31:48 PM PST by Torie
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To: DCBandita
You need to join the Blue Dog Democrats, if you're not one already. http://www.bluedogdems.com

They are pro-life though.

489 posted on 11/14/2006 7:34:24 PM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: DCBandita

By the way, check out some polls on the abortion issue. There is great support for a middle away, at the cusp, and away from the Robe fiat, that just any are constitutionally mandated, even very late term ones, if the mother has angst about it.


490 posted on 11/14/2006 7:34:41 PM PST by Torie
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To: DCBandita
No, but that's not really the argument for going to war, is it? The argument was imminent threat. The argument was WMDs. The argument was ties to Al Quaeda - all debunked, and admitted to by the administration itself.

You really are extroadinarily ignorant. Bush never said "imminent threat." Have you ever listened to his speeches? The one who said "imminent threat" was one of your Dems, Jay Rockefeller. As far as WMD's and ties to Al Qaeda are concerned, you might want to read your favorite liberal newspapers a little more carefully, like the front page. Do 2,000 tons of enriched uranium, chemical weapons, and detailed plans to make atomic bombs sound like WMD's to you? Well, maybe not.

491 posted on 11/14/2006 7:34:45 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: mrsmith
How many pro-life Republican Senators voted for Specter as Judiciary chairman?

Heck, for that matter, how many of them voted for Ginsburg to sit on the Court? All but 2 of them I believe and we don't have to guess who one of them was.
492 posted on 11/14/2006 7:38:10 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're Wrong?)
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To: Torie
You assume that I think the defecit as a percentage of GNP is an apt measure of economic well-being. But if it defends the tax cuts, I'm sure you think it's quite good.

I'll see your degree in economics and match it with my degree in economics (with honors - from the WSJ no less!) from an equally prominent school. I'll also match your MBA with my MBA. I'm not a lawyer, though, so you have me there. And given your background, you of all people should know to regard the "numbers" (from ANY source) with some degree of skepticism as they can be made to look one way or another by omitting this measure, over-emphasizing that measure, or in the way the terms themselves are defined. A myriad of other measures add to the total picture of the economic present and future of this country.

493 posted on 11/14/2006 7:40:35 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita

Please just understand that Right To Life is enumerated in our founding documents, which many of us take seriously because they have led to Earth's longest-lived and most prosperous representative Republic. These are high stakes; and Rights, given to us by whatever "Creator" you believe in, are not to be tampered with. Calling them "social issues" belittles humanity. How many potential Einsteins, Martin Luther Kings, Beethovens, Bill Gates, Mohandas Gandhis, Thomas Edisons, and Keith Richards should we consider expendable for one mother's convenience? If you have a "choice", why NOT default to life?

Here's a hypothetical: you're walking through the woods on a camping trip and decide to walk down to a sun-shimmered lake for some meditation and reflection. You step on a nest of bird eggs, perhaps, even, of an endangered species. How do you "feel"? Probably remorseful to an extent. Why not extend the same courtesy to the rest of us?

It hits close to home, particularly in the meta-sense of objectivism.

Hope to talk to you again soon.


494 posted on 11/14/2006 7:40:53 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: BusterBear

The poster is vested to uphold her nelief based upon lies. Don't disturb the fog.


495 posted on 11/14/2006 7:40:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Torie

Dude (or Dudette?), I'm almost 40 and finished graduate school quite some time ago. Just FYI.


496 posted on 11/14/2006 7:42:17 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: Torie

It's the troll-rating system, with which I disagree. And you are correct - there are many people who post wildly opposing viewpoints who are then squelched. Bad on them. But I also think the tone is set by the poster and reinforced by a willingness to stand and defend and not resort to name-calling. I've been as honest as I can be, disagreement notwithstanding. And I appreciate the courtesy - with a few exceptions, it's been nothing but that this entire evening.


497 posted on 11/14/2006 7:44:48 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: pray4liberty
You need to join the Blue Dog Democrats, if you're not one already. . . . They are pro-life though.

Whooops. Nevermind.

498 posted on 11/14/2006 7:45:35 PM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: DCBandita
The fact that morality is relative is precisely the reason it can't be legislated.

There are absolutes and those are which the society agrees on almost to a person. For example, most people would consider it a moral absolute that I am not permitted to hit you over the head and take your wallet. This law, the one that prohibits me from stealing your wallet, is universally accepted and one which you don't see opposition groups springing up to overturn (e.g., it's not viably in dispute). I would consider that an absolute.

You can't argue for moral relativity in one paragraph and make an exception for an absolute in the second. That's an awful odd religion you're trying to construct there.

It doesn't really matter what you would "consider" an absolute, itself a relative statement. That's your opinion. Who are you to force your own brand of morality on me?

499 posted on 11/14/2006 7:46:56 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're Wrong?)
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To: IrishCatholic
Do the Catholic's constuents and their viewpoints matter? After all - this person was elected as a representative whose job is to represent his/her constituents. If they don't want action against abortion rights, is it ok for that person to impose his/her will in defiance of those who put him/her there?

The job is about representing constituents. Yet the pro-life movement doesn't want to make it about that, because the constituency wants abortion legal but regulated.

500 posted on 11/14/2006 7:47:28 PM PST by DCBandita
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