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A Question from a Webb Supporter
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita

The announcement by McCain, who has put together campaign organizations in many of the states with early nominating contests, was widely expected. The intentions of Giuliani, who has been less active in early organizing, had been less clear.

Giuliani's campaign team said the committee was simply an opening move designed to keep his options open, with a final decision still to come.

"This filing affords him the opportunity to raise money and put together an organization to assist him in making his decision," Giuliani adviser Anthony Carbonetti said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: conservatives; neocons; theocons; zot
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To: DCBandita
Webb's victory speech was broadcast here in Britain. He looked like a lunatic. You look pretty crazy to these British eyes for having voted for him.

Cheers.

Ivan

21 posted on 11/14/2006 2:01:00 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: DCBandita
Somehow my question disappeared.

Did you vote this year?

22 posted on 11/14/2006 2:01:39 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: DCBandita

Really? "I'd rather people live their principles and not try to legislate them at all." So if their principles include an opposition to pedophilia, it shouldn't be legislated?


23 posted on 11/14/2006 2:01:42 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: DCBandita
Sounds like you're pretty good on the issues.

Why are you a Democrat?

24 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:03 PM PST by what's up
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To: albie

Regarding the body parts, I have one and not the other.

Reasonably pro-gun means that I support background checks and a three-day waiting period.

Trending moderate means that I break with my part on some key issues, most notable among them the subject of immigration policy.

In other words, I think you would find that on MOST subjects I'm either slightly left of center or slightly right of center depending on the issue itself. The party line doesn't affect my own personal beliefs and ideology.


25 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:34 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita

One of the concerns would that if he didn't try to legislate social issues, the other side would and he might be apt to support those initiatives in exchange for some support on one of his issues. Also, judicial appointments cannot be overlooked. Democrats will not appoint moderate judges and so why should we support someone who might.


26 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:36 PM PST by Round 9
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To: DCBandita
it would be nice to have a CHOICE that didn't involve the hand of the religious right.

Speaking as one of those "religious right nutjobs", realize that too many of the "moderate" candidates have their "hands dirty" in allowing (or pushing) a leftward drift on those very same "social issues" you would like to completely leave out of the mix.
27 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:44 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: DCBandita
My personal opinion is that IF (and that's a big if) Giuliani could get the Republican nomination, it would herald a return to a more traditional form of conservatism - pro-law enforcement, fiscally conservative, smaller government etc. without legislating social issues whatsoever.

But we have the problem of judges legislating from the bench on social issues. That's why they've become such poarizing issues. Supreme court justices go to law school at very elite schools that are located in very blue cities like Boston. They ram their social agendas down everyone else's throats, and it is very difficult to counteract their decisions. Roe v Wade was terrible consitutional law, and it short circuited the political process. The Supreme Court made a hot button issue when it forced the most radical abortion law in the world on the whole country rather than follow the tenth amendment and let the states make their own laws. States are quit diffferent from one another. Attempting to force laws on the whole country that could only be democtratically enacted in Boston, New York City, or San Francisico is what created the polarization on social issues that we see today.

28 posted on 11/14/2006 2:03:44 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: DCBandita; theDentist
What I don't understand: why is it only the "Religious Right" who is not allowed to hold and/or express strong religious opinions in this country? Why is it OK for left-leaning, liberal politicians and religious leaders (Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc) to mix politics and religion from pulpits and everywhere else, but when "religious right" people express their deeply-held beliefs anywhere, there is a problem? Why is it that the only CHOICE allowed is the one that agrees with the position of the religious-left?

"Tolerance" used to mean that "I disagree with your position on 'X' but I defend you right to have that opinion." It seems to me that in 2006, the most INTOLERANT people of all are liberals and moderates who insist that anyone who doesn't agree with them should be silenced (and banned from the public square).

29 posted on 11/14/2006 2:04:38 PM PST by Prov3456
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To: DCBandita

I'm very socially conservative and I'd support Rudy.

Just out of curiosity, did you consider Macaca a member of the 'Religious Right'?


30 posted on 11/14/2006 2:04:59 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Paleo Conservative
Social issues will be legislated anyway. The Constitution says that powers not enumerated in it are reserved to the states or to the people. From a strict constitutional perspective, Roe vs Wade should be overturned and be decided in a series of votes by the states. Liberals don't want this as it is likely that most forms of abortion would be outlawed.

Regards, Ivan

31 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:02 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: DCBandita

"I think it's mistake to cast a net over all Democrats as "liberal". For example, I am from Virginia - we are a different breed of Democrat (we have to be)."



There is nothing moderate about being a member of the democrat party, why is a democrat troll even starting his own threads on FR?


32 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:14 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: Dane

Hm... Well, "my" party just put a pro-gun Senator in the Capitol. As to their stand on immigration, I can't abide it but that doesn't mean I don't think some semblance of balance (legislative vs. executive) is a bad thing.

I don't have to march in lockstep with them all the time to identify with them, you know.


33 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:41 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita
"or slightly right of center "

No, you're not slighty right of center on anything.

Liberals lie, it's what they must do.
Just like sharks have to swim.

34 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:44 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: MadIvan
Webb's victory speech was broadcast here in Britain. He looked like a lunatic.

My daughter referred to him as "creepy." She didn't even know who he was. She just saw him talking as she walked by the TV.

35 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:50 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: DCBandita

The only thing in the middle-of-the-road is a yellow streak and roadkill. - Margaret Thatcher


36 posted on 11/14/2006 2:06:04 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: DCBandita
Giuliani may be too far to the Left socially for some, but the Religious Right better learn to choose their friends carefully. A Giuliani is better than a Hillary, and Giuliani would be a REPUBLICAN--which is not interchangable with a CONSERVATIVE.

Not a RINO, because he IS a Republican in the Teddy Roosevelt mode (anyone doubting that knows nothing about TR and needs to read a few biographies); he's not a conservative, but yes indeed, I believe a moderate-liberal Republican is preferable to a Democrat of almost any stripe.

37 posted on 11/14/2006 2:06:23 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: DCBandita

I think most people have a great deal of respect for the Mayor. However it is generally held that once his more liberal social positions are known he will be unsuccessful in running for the Republican nomination.


38 posted on 11/14/2006 2:06:24 PM PST by jbwbubba
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To: DCBandita

Do you get smaller government vibes from Giuliani ? I don't. Seems vibes are all we can go on with Rudy. He isn't being very generous with his opinions.


39 posted on 11/14/2006 2:06:34 PM PST by DManA
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To: DCBandita

Webb will not vote pro-gun. Because he lied to you.


40 posted on 11/14/2006 2:06:46 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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