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A Question from a Webb Supporter
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita

The announcement by McCain, who has put together campaign organizations in many of the states with early nominating contests, was widely expected. The intentions of Giuliani, who has been less active in early organizing, had been less clear.

Giuliani's campaign team said the committee was simply an opening move designed to keep his options open, with a final decision still to come.

"This filing affords him the opportunity to raise money and put together an organization to assist him in making his decision," Giuliani adviser Anthony Carbonetti said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: conservatives; neocons; theocons; zot
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To: beezdotcom
Speaking as a pro-choice person, I appreciate your response. I don't know what I can do to allay your fears. I can only say that, personally, I don't think it should be made easier. I think it should be made rarer. Part in parcel of that, however, is my own personal opinion that "rarer" entails much easier access to birth control and conprehensive reproductive and sex education that acknowledges the people have sex. They just DO. And we can try to raise our sons and daughters to respect their bodies and treat sex with reverence, but they're still going to do what they do and sex is part of it. If you want abortions reduced, you have to reduce pregnancies, not write laws to eliminate abortions, imo. But that's not a discussion the pro-life camp really wants to have - they want no abortion AND no sex. It just seems to me to be totally unrealistic.
221 posted on 11/14/2006 3:50:45 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: MadIvan

And in about 6 to 8 months they will begin reaping the fruits of the seeds that were sown on Novembe 7 MadIvan.

I gurantee you they will not be snickering then like they are now.


222 posted on 11/14/2006 3:52:46 PM PST by sport
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To: DCBandita

Because the terrorists ONLY goal is death of anyone nonMuslim and complete control of the entire world. They will not negotiate. Their god dictates that to them. And they don't care to die. In order for the dems to be able to effectively fight the WOT, they better have tunnelvision or we're all in big trouble. Please watch the film "Obsession" if you haven't already seen it. Its on YouTube. Its what we're up against.


223 posted on 11/14/2006 3:54:33 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: theDentist
The Republican party is not going to let Giuliani become the nominee.

Yes, he has the fiscal credentials, but he's pro-gun control and there's alot of NRA members who are Republicans. He's also pro-choice and pro-gay agenda which a majority of Republicans are not.

Why would you quibble about a candidate addressing "moral" issues?

Had it not been for your own party running those pro-life candidates in the last election, your party might not be in the majority right now.

224 posted on 11/14/2006 3:55:10 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: MadIvan

Sometimes people didn't ask the right questions in WRONG wars either.

I don't think DC Bandita is saying to give up because the war is long and wearisome and difficult, but that the war was wrongly engaged. If we picked the wrong war (and I defintiely think Iraq has drained us and hampered our ability to fight the REAL threat, Iran), the fact that it is long and wearisome and difficult does not detract from its be a colossal mistake.


225 posted on 11/14/2006 3:55:33 PM PST by libertylover76
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To: Vicomte13
I hate to think of myself as a single issue voter, but I don't believe they're babies. I just don't. And as a woman, I don't agree with your right to impose your beliefs on me on this issue. I don't believe you have the right to force me to be pregnant - that's what it comes down to, right? I think you'd get many different answers from pro-choice people as to why they are pro-choice - for me it is a fundamental decision about dominion over my own body. Making abortions illegal takes the dominion away from me. Period. And on that I will not compromise - because it condemns me to a class less than that of a person who is not affected by it (namely men). Again - I hate to make it a man/woman issue, but it really is, because I can get pregnant and you can't.
226 posted on 11/14/2006 3:55:39 PM PST by DCBandita
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I have another question - since when do "moderates" frequent political discussion boards? It seems a contradiction in terms, and unlikely.


227 posted on 11/14/2006 3:57:20 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: DCBandita
You bubbled out, But I don't believe it's "killing" anything let alone an "individual". You have obviously chosen to believe that foolishness based upon your need to believe that nonsense. You have no scientific basis upon which to assert such nonsense but you do it openly. You are far from a moderate and showing more and more the leftist ideology your democrat party demigods promote. You're a liar.
228 posted on 11/14/2006 3:57:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: libertylover76
I don't think DC Bandita is saying to give up because the war is long and wearisome and difficult, but that the war was wrongly engaged. If we picked the wrong war (and I defintiely think Iraq has drained us and hampered our ability to fight the REAL threat, Iran), the fact that it is long and wearisome and difficult does not detract from its be a colossal mistake.

Even if Iraq was a mistake (and somehow any war that gets rid of the likes of Saddam Hussein can't be classified as a complete mistake in my book), this is a "break it, bought it" situation. There's no throwing up of hands and saying "do over". It has to be seen to completion, as much as anyone may wish otherwise. There is no point in calling for an early withdrawal just because one thinks that the war was not launched on proper grounds - there will be time for that discussion, but it should not affect the need to win the conflict in question.

Regards, Ivan

229 posted on 11/14/2006 3:58:36 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Sam Cree
FORBES 2008
230 posted on 11/14/2006 3:58:52 PM PST by maineman
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To: theDentist
oops! Sorry, Dentist. I meant to post my response to DCBandits, not you.

My bad....

231 posted on 11/14/2006 4:00:16 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: LRS

I think partial birth abortions are a canard and a religious right framing phrase. First, they are EXTREMELY rare - I think the figure I saw was 2,000 total. Second, they are abhorrent and the idea that a person who haves them is in any way cavaliere about it doesn't ring true to me.

Generally speaking, I think a healthy woman who is responsible enough to wind up pregnant is also responsible enough to decide on an abortion in the first 90 days of that pregnancy. Any other moves to abort the pregnancy after that point should be done only if it endangers the life of the mother AND if it's her choice (given that her life is endangered - in other words, mothers who want to have the baby regardless of the threat to their own life should absolutely be able to do so without interference).


232 posted on 11/14/2006 4:00:43 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: Gaffer

After reading some of this persons posts since I posted, I think you are right.


233 posted on 11/14/2006 4:01:34 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: lesser_satan

So we're good then. No full-auto weapons, background checks and cool down periods for others?


234 posted on 11/14/2006 4:01:45 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita
... but I don't believe they're babies...

So, you can see no limits at all? Even up to the day before natural birth? Even when medical science has advanced to the point it has at giving premature babies a darn good shot at life?

235 posted on 11/14/2006 4:03:03 PM PST by LRS
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To: DCBandita; jveritas
OK...now you have lost me. Iraq IS a part of the war on terror, and I invite you to really investigate this forum and all of the posts on what Saddam was up to, the documents jveritas has translated and posted, and the articles from other nations, like the United Kingdon, which indicate there was a definite link between Saddam and Bin Laden. Despite what you read in the Washington Post, there was a real danger from Saddam.

Tell me how the democrats will fight the war on terror. Will they send troops into Iran? Will they blockade North Korea? Will they do ANYTHING except pour billions into Homeland Security in order to create union jobs?

They are not serious about it at all. Your party has people who have attacked the military (Durbin, Kerry, Murtha). Your party wants to pull us out of Iraq regardless of the consequences to the Iraqi people and our national security.

I voted for George Bush with national security as my primary issue. I see NO ONE in the democrat party who will support the military to the same extent.

Don't forget...your party, since the 70's, has been anti-military and has funded social programs by cutting military expenditures. I wa a young adult during the Carter years, and he absolutely gutted the military AND the intelligence agencies. When Clinton came to the Oval Office, he started doing the same stuff. It was only the Republican majority in Congress that kept him from repeating Carter's folly....and Clinton sold missile technology to the Chinese and gave nuclear power to North Korea, in a deal instigated by that perennial America-hater, Jimmy Carter.

You don't know what you are talking about concerning Iraq, and therefore your vote was made in ignorance.

236 posted on 11/14/2006 4:03:24 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: DCBandita
I don't believe they're babies.

Just some tissue... right? How old are you?

237 posted on 11/14/2006 4:03:38 PM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: DCBandita; Admin Moderator

All right, this silliness has gone on long enough.


238 posted on 11/14/2006 4:03:47 PM PST by darkangel82 (Everyone has the right to be an idiot, but on DU they abuse the privilege.)
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To: MHGinTN

Murdering me is illegal, MHG. There are laws that preclude you murdering me.

Scientifically I don't agree with you. A 90-day fetus is not a person to me.

Abortion is not illegal, so having one is not breaking any laws in the same way that murdering me is breaking laws.


239 posted on 11/14/2006 4:03:52 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: libertylover76; DCBandita
To shortsighted and cowardly Democrats, every war is the "wrong" war because every war is a tough war--and they can't handle anything but ease and self-indulgence at the expense of other people.

I have nothing but contempt for spineless Democrats who have the attention spans of gnats and who utterly lack the commitment and resolve to see a tough job through to the end.

We've lost more people in traffic accidents in a month than we've lost fighting the good fight in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past three years.

The typical abortion mill slaughters more souls pointlessly and brutally on the altar of social liberalism in a month than have been lost in the course of the War on Terror.

240 posted on 11/14/2006 4:04:43 PM PST by JCEccles
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