[HostileTerritory]

That would be tantamount to my celebrating Hanukkah to get gifts.

Well, by and large, that is what kids get out of Hanukkah and few people care. The hasidim probably don't even celebrate. American Jews took a minor holiday and adapted it so that kids won't feel totally left out at Christmastime. Other non-Christian immigrants simply joined in the secular Christmas.

Isn't it greed for the "tots" to get these gifts, then? This is how kids function. Maybe it would be good for Christmas to be stripped of greed, but that's not the vision of Christmas that includes making sure little kids get toys so they don't feel left out when their rich friends get toys. It's all part of the same materialism.

[ShadowDancer]

That would be tantamount to my celebrating Hanukkah to get gifts.

What I meant was, being that I'm Christian, it would be wrong for me to celebrate Hanukkah to get Hanukkah presents (or for my kids to for that matter).