Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies
Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.
Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.
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I'm not a liberal. I'm a realist. No one scares me more than the alternative.
Okay, now THAT was funny!
LOL!
Rudy will easily win the Eastern states, almost all the Midwest, and West and several Southern states. If there are more than one "conservative" running in the primaries it won't even be close.
People need to go back and research what happened in his marriage.... she left him before he left her, only she didn't want to move out of Gracie Mansion and forced him to sleep elsewhere in the mansion. She was more interested in pursuing her television career than supporting the Mayor of NY.
Christians will not forget that he said if his daughter wanted to kill her baby he'd give her the money to do it.
He can't win nationally.
Howlin,
I hope you're right and it's really that simple, but I fear that what you see here is a microcosm of the Conservative movement in the 21st Century. I think FAR too many on our side of the political spectrum have forgotten how horrible it was to live through the socialism and pacifism of the 1970's, and they have become wholly unreasonable in their insistence on ideological purity. I hear it FAR too often outside this forum as well. I'm trying not to get disheartened, but I fear we are headed for a Democratic victory in 2008, and with the current situation in World Politics, that might be just enough to signify the end of the great Republic of the United States. At the very least, a Democratic administration during the War on Terror will signal "the beginning of the end" even if the end does not come during the 2008-2012 period.
"Have you tried getting her to read some of the Clinton books?"
Not cover to cover. But I've read enough to be scared. And I still maintain that Billy has the blood of 500-thousand Rwandans on his hands.
In all honesty.... Bill was elected because of Perot. Hillary is hoping for the same thing to happen in 2008.
I think you like his positions on the issues: Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual Agenda, Anti-2nd Amendment and Pro-Amnesty for ILLEGAL Immigrants.
"I think he showed his real character by telling the Shiek to take his ten million and shove it.... "
I have a different take on that.
First off, don't take this as a big defense of Saudi Arabia. I think their inability to solve their internal problems causes the whole world difficulties.
The way I see it, the crown prince of SA extended a sincere offer of help. He is no saint, but then he is no Al Qaeda supporter either. He has immense problems keeping them from destabilizing his own country. Instead of handling it quietly and diplomatically, Rudi publicly shamed the man in front of the whole world.
All Americans were upset with anyone Arab immediately after 9/11. Everyone from the middle east was lumped together and seen as a bitter enemy. But by taking his actions, Rudi did more damage than you might suspect. He dissed the crown prince (now King) of a 60 year ally. An ally who kept our oil prices low and economy stable for decades. One of our few friends in the region. We are no longer such close friends with Saudi Arabia. Our oil is more expensive, and our supply is at risk. Each and every one of us pays thousands of dollars more per year in gasoline and heating fuel. The price of anything shipped (which is everything) is higher too. The possibility of SA allying themselves with a future enemy of ours is great. We can no longer use their military bases whenever we please. They would have come in quite handy when invading Afganistan and Iraq. Billions were spent acquiring alternate staging areas from countries such as Pakistan. What else did we give them to cut a deal? Soldiers also had further to deploy and were at much greater risk. Saddam knew that SA would not support us and that gave him a degree of strategic advantage. You know as well as I that a significant number of our soldiers died because of these conditions. Thats right. Soldiers died because we lost a strategic ally.
There is also the matter that other nations know that SA will not support us. This limits our actions when confronting countries such as Iran. Any oil interruption in the middle east would cripple our country. They can thumb their noses at us and wave nukes all they want. We won't do anything.
I think that Rudi acted rashly and without regard for facts or future consequences. Rudi did all of this when he was a mere mayor. Just imagine the damage he could do as president.
When I see Rudi Giulianni, I see my high fuel bills and the faces of dead soldiers. I can say with absolute certainty that I will not vote for him.
The "base" did not desert the GOP last election. Its losses were almost entirely because the Independents and moderates voted against the "extremists" to vote for the lunatics.
For every defection of "conservatives" there will be two others joining the party. Besides the constant threats by the "Religious Right" have becoming tedious if it even exists outside of being a Treason Media boogeyman used to frighten the foolish.
The election for 2008 started November 8th. Anyone not a household name by now isn't going to beat Hillary Clinton.
Hillary will grant the islamics some slack. Neither of htem will grant Americans any slack.
You said, "Giuliani is just as much a flaming leftist as Hillary."
If you TRULY believe that, then vote your conscience, but I think 99.9% of the rational people in the world would concede that Rudy is somewhere to the right of Hillary on issues like Crime and Terrorism...quite a bit to the right in my opinion. Can you honestly say that Rudy would be as weak on National Security or Crime as Hillary??? Have you heard anything the man has said?
I'd take 50% of what I want with Rudy over 0% with Hillabeast.
As I have posted previously: Guiliani/Steele in 2008. The ticket would get 54-55% of the national vote.
I'd take 50% of what I want with Rudy over 0% with Hillabeast.
As I have posted previously: Guiliani/Steele in 2008. The ticket would get 54-55% of the national vote.
What is the matter with you don't you know that when the country rejects rightists like Santorum, Allen and Talent AND elects leftist loons like Brown it really means it wants a MORE conservative candidate? How dare you let commonsense trump ideology.
And that is why I intend to vote with my head in 2008. This country will never be recognizable after another 8 years of being raped by the Clintons.
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