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1 posted on 11/14/2006 10:06:00 AM PST by Checkers
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2 posted on 11/14/2006 10:08:51 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Alienating the Hispanic vote seriously damaged the R's during the last election.

Illegal immigration has been neglected for so long that it is now political suicide to oppose it.

The GOP will now fully embrace the abolition of the border and integration with Mexico.

3 posted on 11/14/2006 10:09:23 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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There's not going to be a fence. No money, no fence.

Sad, but true.


4 posted on 11/14/2006 10:09:58 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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"regularization"

Is that this weeks shiny new name for the turd? (Amnesty)
5 posted on 11/14/2006 10:10:15 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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The fence that won't be built --- not a REAL fence, anyway. Not with the present crowd in the White House and the Congress....

When and if we ever get a President and a Congress that want to STOP THE ILLEGAL INVASION, you will see a fence. Not until then.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 10:10:23 AM PST by EagleUSA (T)
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The fence will not go up!......


7 posted on 11/14/2006 10:10:36 AM PST by GitmoSailor (Diana We love you in AZ! ........ IREY will be Back Jack!!!.............COLD WAR VET.........)
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The time to build the fence was rieght after 9/11, we had our chance, we blew it, now get ready for the hordes of illegals swinging even more elections to democrats.

The slippery slope towards socialism has begun.


10 posted on 11/14/2006 10:13:56 AM PST by word_warrior_bob
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What fence? There's never going to be a fence. Nothing's been allocated to build it and now nothing ever will. we were played for fools. Better brush up on my Spanish.


12 posted on 11/14/2006 10:15:03 AM PST by pgkdan
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Guys I think the key point Hewitt is making is here : I have been a skeptic of the power of the issue based on last fall's special election in which Congressman John Campbell easily bested Minuteman founder Jim Gilchrist depsite national focus on and support for Gilchrist by the anti-illegal immigration movement. Once the promise of border security was delivered via the fence legislation, the issue lost a great deal of its pull because border security is primarily what the center-right wanted.

I think the underlying import is that the Country Clubber Republicans, the same ones who call the Minutemen vigilantes and sniff at the idea of standing up to the racist bullies of the Left have helped them undercut the effort - this was a political play to mullify any effect the issue of illegal immigrants might have had on the elections.

Im beginning to think the states part of the southern half of the US need to declare war on the limp-wristed influence of the Northeastern Pubbies.

14 posted on 11/14/2006 10:17:12 AM PST by Alkhin ("I WANT TO BELIEVE" X-Files)
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15 posted on 11/14/2006 10:19:14 AM PST by gubamyster
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Once the promise of border security was delivered via the fence legislation, the issue lost a great deal of its pull because border security is primarily what the center-right wanted.

This is why the GOP should listen to Michael Savage and not Hugh Hewitt. As soon as the border bill passed, Savage was on the air to warn listeners not to take it seriously until it was funded. Then the next day, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Aztlan) said that the bill was only symbolic and "would never be funded". Only superficial thinkers like Hewitt thought the issue died with the fence bill. Minuteman supporters and true anti-illegal conservatives were not fooled by this posturing. We knew that without funding attatched, the bill was a cynical attempt to buy our votes.

Then of course a few weeks later, Herr Gonzales' Gestapo railroaded the two border agents for 12 years in jail for shooting a verminous drug dealer in the ass. The rage over that conviction--coming just days before the election--cannot be understated. Savage covered it. Hewitt, Rove and everyone else ignored it.

21 posted on 11/14/2006 10:30:48 AM PST by montag813
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The fence is so OVER.

Forget it. Not one foot will ever be built.

24 posted on 11/14/2006 10:32:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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" have been a skeptic of the power of the issue based on last fall's special election in which Congressman John Campbell easily bested Minuteman founder Jim Gilchrist depsite national focus on and support for Gilchrist by the anti-illegal immigration movement. "

Whatever happened to "just doing what's right" vs. wrangling for votes, power, etc.

We are in a sad shape.


33 posted on 11/14/2006 10:37:00 AM PST by sheana
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The GOP and Illegal Immigration: It Begins With The Fence

the fence concept is bullsh!t pure and simple - otherwise our mexican loving Kongress wouldn't have passed it and Jorje Bush wouldn't have signed it. You don't keep cockroaches out of your kitchen by building a fence aroudn your kitchen - they come through. The only way to get rid of illegal immigration is to remove the incentives to come here

There are two types of incentives - government and private. Government incentives include welfare, medical care for the ninos, and GOVERNMENT SCHOOLING for th children. Get rid of these and get rid of the anchor baby concept and you'll go a lot farther to reducing illegal immigration than a fence. Private incentives need to be gotten rid of too - require all employers to check immigration status of all hispanic workers. Provide prompt response from government agencies on the checks. MAKE THE USE OF FORGED DOCUMENTS PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TIME. The forgeries are good, and can fool almost everyone.

The fence is a boondoggle and a lightning rod designed to distract attention from effective measures to stem illegal immigration.

35 posted on 11/14/2006 10:37:22 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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And it should be, but the construction of the fence is a very big deal. It is a symbol of seriousness about border security, and also a symbol or responsiveness to the demands of the electorate. The fencing is something the voters want to see done, and done soon. Their demand was met rhetorically, and now it has to be fulfilled in reality.

The demand for a fence was there long before this election and Hewitt knows it. The Republican failure to get it built when they controlled the Executive and Legislative branches is one of the reasons they now control only one of those branches. I realize that this makes a fine rallying point for the GOP, but it'd have been great to see them do something about this when they had the opportunity.
38 posted on 11/14/2006 10:41:23 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Neither party wil do anything as far as a fence is concerned. Hell, what would all of those border patrol agents do then?

They can continue to have jobs and continue to add more largess to another FAILED government agency.

Better start learning spanish because that is what we are headed for.

39 posted on 11/14/2006 10:42:38 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To summarize this article:

70% of the electorate opposes illegal alien floods.

Building a fence will be a good smokescreen to shut this majority up.

Once that is done, we can ignore any enforcement actions, since the sheep will be placated.

We can then go on with amnesty and a renewed flood of illegals that make the Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Streeters happy and profits big.

Left out of this equation:

The illegals won't vote Republican, they will vote for welfare state Democrats and fellow Hispanics (see Los Angeles mayor and city council).

America will devolve into Honduras, with no middle class, a huge indentured working poor, and a vastly wealthy elite.

Final irony: George Bush and Karl Rove will be retiring to Tejas in the new Peoples Republic of Aztlan. Hugh Hewitt and Chavez and Kristol and Kondrake and all the highly paid talking heads will be replaced by guys named Jorge and Ramon talking only Spanish.


40 posted on 11/14/2006 10:42:41 AM PST by oldbill
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There should be a point man or woman at DHS --accountable to Secretary Chertoff-- and a very public, very transparent accounting of where the fence is going and how much has been constructed.

I think Brownie might be available.
41 posted on 11/14/2006 10:43:32 AM PST by George W. Bush
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Sorry Hugh, there's not gonna be a fence. Doesn't fit into the "global plan" of the CFR.


44 posted on 11/14/2006 11:18:19 AM PST by upchuck (Republicans didn`t lose this time around because they were conservative, but because they WEREN`T!)
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One more reason I don't like the squishy Hugh Hewitt.


49 posted on 11/14/2006 11:50:29 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Pelosi and Murtha: the twin faces of the House Dems...Botox and Toxic)
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