[lafroste]

The issues of diabetes, and obesity seem to support the Atkins diet worldview: that humans are not intended to be vegitarians, but are carnivores and need to eat meat. I suffered from obesity, etc. I went on Atkins and my health improved dramatically, going from a slim, trim 296 lbs to an absolutely aenemic 208 pounds in 6 months; from struggling to swim 300 yards to struggling to swim 2,500 yards in six weeks, and being rid of arthritis. We are carnivores, at least I am.

The libs need to deal with it.

[Brian Allen]

Tell me more about your Atkins experience, please? (As in any variation from the standard diet, as published, etceteras)

I'm 230 pounds going on 165 and need all the help I can get!

Thanks in anticipation - Brian

[megatherium]

There's a fascinating book, The Paleolithic Prescription, that came out in the late 80s. The authors (an MD and an anthropologist) argued that the ideal diet for humans is the diet our ancestors ate before agriculture (agriculture is 10,000 years old but our species is roughly 100,000 years old). That diet is a hunter-gatherer diet, with plenty of fruits, nuts, tubers, veggies -- and also a good amount of fish and meat. But the meat was lean game, not marbled beef, and they didn't use dairy products or alcohol.

They also said that our ancestors did huge amounts of exercise, both resistance and aerobic. One interesting thing about humans is that we have tremendous endurance, better than many other species. We perspire over the surface of our bodies, which many mammals do not do (they shed heat through their lungs by panting). The authors described a hunting technique of the Bushmen in the Kalahari: patiently chase a deer all day long until it is exhausted. The deer can run much faster than any human but the human can run all day long. Anyway, if you can find a copy of this book, it's worth reading.

[TigersEye]

The libs need to deal with it.

Naw. Let 'em veg. Thin the herd.

[Richard-SIA]

Even the most insane diets ever published were never attacked like the Atkins diet.

Dr. Atkins was THE ENEMY to bakers, pasta makers, potato farmers, and the high fructose corn syrup industry.

I'm still doing Atkins, but it's certainly more difficult and expensive since the High Carb industry went to such lengths to discredit the Atkins diet.

I still hear the whispering campaign, claiming that Atkins is dangerous, from people who "Read is somewhere", so JUST KNOW it's true.

The real money is in the high carb foods, and the "food" industry is certainly more concerned with profit than our health.

Too bad this falls harder on the primitive peoples of the world.

I lost about 50 pounds, and notice that I am also much clearer headed.