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Announcing a New Book by Alamo-Girl and betty boop [Update at #329]
Alamo-Girl and betty boop | November 13, 2006 | betty boop

Posted on 11/13/2006 7:34:14 PM PST by betty boop

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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

Congrats to you both, looks interesting.


141 posted on 11/14/2006 11:43:56 AM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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To: ckilmer

"The unitarians got their start in the early 1700's mainly at the behest of the Sir Issac Newton who was an avowed arian."

Equally hilarious. You clearly know nothing of the Unitarian Church (such as it is).

Also, Newton was so "avowed" that his "Arian" writing was kept completely secret in his lifetime.

Sheesh again.

(I hope this book, which sounds pretty dodgey) isn't based on similar scholarship.


142 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:14 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: an amused spectator
It all sounds so complex. Are there pictures?

Actually, there are a few graphics. But truly, I hope people will find the writing style has made it a comfortable read.
143 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

God grant you many years in peace health and happiness!


144 posted on 11/14/2006 11:47:25 AM PST by grammarman
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Thank you oh so very much for your encouragements! And congratulations on your manuscript and the one to come!!!


145 posted on 11/14/2006 11:48:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

So what are your plans for '08? :)


146 posted on 11/14/2006 11:49:01 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (What would Reagan do?)
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To: lesser_satan

Thank you for bumping by!


147 posted on 11/14/2006 11:50:43 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thank you oh so very much, Knitting!


148 posted on 11/14/2006 11:51:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
However, the (humorless, I'd even say grim) logical positivists seem to have seized on Laplace's statement as the model for their own method.

Agreed. LaPlace was really describing God's perspective, not man's, although he might not have articulated it that way. OTOH, the logical positivists reenact the Sin of Adam over and over--eating from tree of the knowledge of good and evil to become wise, like God, with predictably tragic results. Having been expelled from the garden, mankind seems to spend much of its time trying to create Hell on Earth when, irony of ironies, Adam's sin is already redeemed.

149 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:01 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop; ModelBreaker
But as you say, truly Laplace was a world-class thinker, and his work on Bayesian probability theory was truly foundational.

His statement that (freely paraphrasing) "seeing everything, and having the intellect to analyze the data, allows for knowledge of the future" brings up an interesting difficulty that I recalled today, while reviewing an orbital mechanics text.

The immediate context was that, while the motion of a body subject to central body gravitation is completely solveable, an "imposed non-two-body acceleration ... will render the new system [of equations] insolvable." (Emphasis mine.)

The author's essential point is that imposing perturbations other than gravity leaves us with a trajectory problem having more unknowns than parameters to explain the motion in a closed-form way. (This explains why there's no solution to the n-body problem, for example.)

It's an interesting lesson on the limitations of mathematics as they apply to the real world. At best, Laplace's statement boils down to a statement of perfect measurement of an immense number of initial conditions; coupled with zero-error numerical prediction methods -- neither of which are attainable in the real world.

150 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:09 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Coyoteman; betty boop
Thank you for your reply!

I obviously have not yet read your book, but from your past posts here, and the table of contents you posted from your new book, you are still doing apologetics and philosophy, not science.

Interesting, I'm not aware of anyone "doing" science by writing a book - publishing observations and theories for sure, but not "doing."

At any rate, we'll let the readers decide whether or not we approached all the issues of science, faith and culture, appropriately.

151 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ckilmer

BTW, there is also zero evidence that Mark Twain was ever a Unitarian. Nor Lincoln, if that is the claim that crackpot site is making.


152 posted on 11/14/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: r9etb; betty boop
At best, Laplace's statement boils down to a statement of perfect measurement of an immense number of initial conditions; coupled with zero-error numerical prediction methods -- neither of which are attainable in the real world. Or, as I posted just a moment ago, he was describing God's, not man's, perspective.
153 posted on 11/14/2006 12:02:48 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop

Where to get copy??? I'm writing a novel, and have a history of Yucca Mountain. Jeff Head is out there. Perhaps a writers guild is in order.


154 posted on 11/14/2006 12:02:58 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: betty boop
However, the (humorless, I'd even say grim) logical positivists seem to have seized on Laplace's statement as the model for their own method.

Agreed. LaPlace was really describing God's perspective, not man's, although he might not have articulated it that way. OTOH, the logical positivists reenact the Sin of Adam over and over--eating from tree of the knowledge of good and evil to become wise, like God, with predictably tragic results. Having been expelled from the garden, mankind seems to spend much of its time trying to create Hell on Earth when, irony of ironies, Adam's sin is already redeemed.

155 posted on 11/14/2006 12:03:24 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Congratulations! If you have a ping list for when the book becomes publicly available, I'd love to be on it.

I rarely post to evo/crevo threads because in my early years on FR it was such an unpleasant experience. But I have followed your posts, which have been fascinating and thought-provoking. And I have always admired your unflagging courtesy to all in what generally looks like no-holds-barred gladiatorial combat, to return to the Rome theme.

156 posted on 11/14/2006 12:19:22 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DaveLoneRanger; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I'll read this book.

Thanks for the ping.


157 posted on 11/14/2006 12:32:26 PM PST by Radix (This Tag Line would be a better joke about John Kerry if I hadn't left out 2 words and mangled it)
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To: Sam Hill
BTW, there is also zero evidence that Mark Twain was ever a Unitarian. Nor Lincoln, if that is the claim that crackpot site is making.
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That site was a unitarian site. (not to make too fine a point of it but that's why I had several references of varying repute -- to Melville's Unitarianism.) In any case its good you call the unitarian source crackpot. Its likely Twain Didn't go to church at all. I don't know about lincoln. Here's a wikipedia list of famous unitarians. the list includes melville, emerson and thoreau.(but not twain or lincoln--so good catch)
158 posted on 11/14/2006 1:03:36 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: betty boop
The recent “crevo war” at FR has produced some serious casualties.

I very rarely post on the crevo threads (it's been years) because the creationist posters have sincere religious beliefs which I don't wish to offend at all. I genuinely respect their beliefs -- they were the beliefs of my forefathers. I used to read the science articles Patrick Henry pinged us to but stayed clear of the arguments downthread. I doubt if the arguments changed anybody's mind anyway.

Recent events on FR have left a chill in the air for some of us scientifically trained political conservatives. Although none of the rancour and allegations were directed at me personally, I felt that my core values and scientific integrity had been impugned. It was like a kick in the gut from a place I respect.

Hopefully you can understand that and why people have left.

159 posted on 11/14/2006 1:05:06 PM PST by rustbucket (E pur si muove)
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To: betty boop

Let us know when 'Timothy,' eclectic references and all is available on Amazon.


160 posted on 11/14/2006 1:12:55 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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