[Izzy Dunne]

I'm not buying the "sneaked up on" part of the China sub story.

[dgallo51]

Check these out

China Tries to Keep Quiet
November 7, 2006:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20061107.aspx

If you doubt how screwed up the large aircraft-carrier-centric U.S. Navy is, here's a report:

Is the U.S. Navy Overrated?
www.knightsbridgeuniversity.com/documents/Is%20the%20US.%20Navy%20overrated.pdf.

AMERICA'S ACUPUNCTURE POINTS
PART 2: The assassin's mace
By Victor N Corpus

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ20Ad01.html

[dgallo51]

Sorry about the bad link…this provides the report in html, about halfway through the page…

Is the U.S. Navy Overrated (5.1)
An Updated Knightsbridge Working Paper
Copyright 2004 By Roger Thompson
Professor of Military Studies, Knightsbridge University.

http://www.combatreform.com/itsgindex.htm