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Posted on 11/12/2006 5:31:38 PM PST by avile

Bielski: US Jewry has no future By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER AND AMIR MIZROCH

Jews have no future in America and should all move to Israel, Jewish Agency Chairman Zeev Bielski said Sunday.

"One day the penny will drop for American Jews and they will realize they have no future as Jews in the US due to assimilation and intermarriage," he told The Jerusalem Post while in the United States to participate in the world's largest annual gathering of Jewish leaders.

"Assimilation is unstoppable and inevitable in a country of this size and with such a mobile population," he said. "We have to get them to move to Israel, and then Ariel Sharon's vision of one million olim from America will come true."

Asked if American Jews were fighting a losing battle to stay Jewish, Bielski answered in the affirmative. But he urged the American Diaspora to continue to fund Jewish education and renewal efforts.

"I want them to spend all this money on Jewish education and outreach because they're providing me [the Jewish Agency] with quality aliya material: 'more-Jewish' olim who are more aware of Jewish history, traditions and rituals," he said in New York Friday.

The General Assembly, a 4,500-strong gathering of the United Jewish Communities of North America, opened in Los Angeles Sunday and will run through Wednesday. A record number of Israeli cabinet ministers will be attending, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Tourism Minister Isaac Herzog and Education Minister Yuli Tamir, as well as opposition leader Binyamin Netanyahu and Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer.

This year's conference, titled "Together on the Front Line: One people, one destiny," is dedicated to strengthening ties between Israel and US Jewry. It comes on the heels of this summer's war in Lebanon. The UJC raised close to $350 million to help reconstruction efforts.

Eran Lerman, director of the Israel office of the American Jewish Committee, said aliya could play a role in enhancing the connection between the Diaspora and Israel. However, he took issue with Bielski's negative assessment of the future of American Jewry.

"There's a good, strong core of American Jews for whom their Jewish identity is a cause for celebration, which is not always understood by Israelis," Lerman said.

AJC executive director David Harris put it more strongly.

"American Jews face their share of problems, no doubt," he said. "But we're not disappearing any time soon. These kind of periodic pleas from Israelis have no resonance with American Jews."

Harris said US Jewry largely believed in "American exceptionalism," where Diaspora Jews were not only safe but flourish. "It negates the Zionist narrative that there is no future in the Diaspora," he said.

Harris called Bielski's comments "fear-mongering" and "counterproductive." He said they were more likely to turn off Jews from making aliya rather than encourage them, since Americans immigrate to Israel because of the positive "pull" of the place rather than the "push" of negative circumstances.

Harris acknowledged that assimilation was a concern for American Jews, but also pointed to trends of Jewish renewal and greater involvement with the community.

The AJC's centennial celebration was the scene of controversy in Washington in May, when author A.B. Yehoshua said, "Judaism outside Israel has no future. If you do not live in Israel... your Jewish identity has no meaning at all."

Even many in Israel criticized him for his remarks, which espoused the classic Zionist line. At the time, Bielski told the Post the renowned writer had "made a mistake."

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To: avile

Jeramiah 23:3-4

3) "I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. 4) I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing," declares the LORD.


21 posted on 11/12/2006 5:52:05 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (We not only have a lame duck president, we have a lame duck GOP party.)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
Jews have no future in America and should all move to Israel, Jewish Agency Chairman Zeev Bielski said Sunday.

The Jewish Agency said the same thing about Russian Jewry. The whole purpose of the Jewish Agency (how all its agents make their money) is to convince Jews to give up everything and move to Israel, where the Israeli government abandons them.

BTW after the Jewish Agency said there was no hope for Jews in Russia and pulled out, my son moved in and created a flourishing Jewish community throughout the former USSR.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

22 posted on 11/12/2006 5:57:21 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: PatrickF4
So now, suddenly they should go back to Israel because they are not welcome?

Read the article. He wants Jews to move to Israel BECAUSE the US is such a good place for Jews: "One day the penny will drop for American Jews and they will realize they have no future as Jews in the US due to assimilation and intermarriage"

There are lots of secular, non-observing Jews in the US. So what reason does a secular jew-in-ethnicity-only have for marrying another Jew in preference to a non-Jew?

I'm a Catholic (not very observing) married to a Jewish woman (not very observing). Her best friend is a Jewish woman who also married an Italian, and she has several other jewish friends who married non-jews. My sister-in-law is a Messianic Jew married to a Baptist, and they raised their kids as Baptists

23 posted on 11/12/2006 5:59:52 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: avile
they will realize they have no future as Jews in the US due to assimilation and intermarriage

Gee! Sounds a bit "Aryan(i)" to me but with a different group of people.
24 posted on 11/12/2006 6:07:32 PM PST by adorno
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To: avile
I want them to spend all this money on Jewish education and outreach because they're providing me [the Jewish Agency] with quality aliya material

If Eric Cartman could speak Hebrew, he'd say:


25 posted on 11/12/2006 6:10:05 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: SauronOfMordor

It seems throughout history that those nations kind and hospitable to Jews saw their prosperity multiply. Those who mistreated and murdered Jews got royally shellacked. Maybe somebody here knows an exception to my observation. To me it seems like God has ordered, "No one of you is allowed to mistreat Jews! Only I'm allowed to do that! And any of you who try it - see what happens!"


26 posted on 11/12/2006 6:10:12 PM PST by Virulas
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To: avile
The last place American jews would want to go would be Israel. Those who wish to emigrate have already done so. We are stuck with the rest of them.

And don't overly excited at me, I am a jewish woman still trying to figure out how people who are supposed to be so smart could be so dumb.

27 posted on 11/12/2006 6:17:50 PM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: avile

But Jews in America have sided with people who hate Israel.


28 posted on 11/12/2006 6:18:53 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: arthurus

"I need another grandchild ... this one is blond, I can't take it to schul with me."
Wayne Reznick - KFI Radio circa 1997


29 posted on 11/12/2006 6:19:12 PM PST by ROTB (Our Constitution ... only for a moral and religious people... -- John Q. Adams, October 11, 1798)
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To: The Worthless Miracle

You'd think in that case they'd vote Republican.


30 posted on 11/12/2006 6:20:17 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: adorno
Sounds a bit "Aryan(i)" to me

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Assimilation is what happens when people whose parents or grandparents were Jewish (in religion) no longer believe in or practice their ancestral faith. It has NOTHING to do with maintaining racial purity.

"Intermarriage" is discouraged because it is better to pass on the faith when both parents believe and practice it, than when only one parents believes and the other doesn't.

Do you think it is better for a child to be brought up by parents who are both practicing Christians attending the same church, or is it better for a Christian to marry a non-Christian in order to "witness the faith"? Christians who marry out of their church and faith aren't too strong on witnessing anyway.

31 posted on 11/12/2006 6:23:47 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: mcg2000

Which country, Oh never mind!


32 posted on 11/12/2006 6:25:58 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: OldFriend

I think the situation here in America is going to change, making it very uncomfortable for any Jew, and they will seek refuge in their homeland of Israel, but they will not change their ways and will be judged in Israel by God Almighty Himself as is foretold in Scripture. Only a 1/3 of the Jews of Israel will survive the battle of Gog & Magog and her allies against Israel. Russia and all her allies will be destroyed on the "mountains of Israel", and only an 1/8 of the invaders will survive, only to see their country completely destroyed.

Ezek 38

1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of [a] Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [b] Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush [c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.
7 " 'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land." 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages [d] will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '

14 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

17 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man's sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'


33 posted on 11/12/2006 6:28:19 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (We not only have a lame duck president, we have a lame duck GOP party.)
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To: ROTB
"I need another grandchild ... this one is blond, I can't take it to schul with me."

My grandson in Israel is not only blond, he has blue eyes! Oy vey.

34 posted on 11/12/2006 6:29:04 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Secular American jewry will never give up their religion.....marxism.


35 posted on 11/12/2006 6:29:44 PM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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To: avile
When the Jews vote predominately for the Dem's,I have a hard time sympathizing with them.I am curious to see what the Dem's have in store for them.The hair standing up on my neck is not a good sign.You would think they would have learned by now.They know that from here on out,they are on their own as far as any action against their neighbor,Iran When people threaten to annihilate their country,and it is only a matter of time before it happens,serious choices have to be made.Israel has been patient,but that lasts for a limited time.They have,and continue to be underestimated as to their capabilities.I do not know much about their weaponry capabilities,but I think if they do have to go for it,I doubt they will hold back. Many countries will rue the day they fomented the hostilities that drove them to their decision.My 2 cents
36 posted on 11/12/2006 6:30:58 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: OldFriend
"Secular American jewry will never give up their religion.....marxism."

See post #33.

37 posted on 11/12/2006 6:31:45 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (We not only have a lame duck president, we have a lame duck GOP party.)
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To: Roy Tucker

The proportion of rep voters would be much higher.


38 posted on 11/12/2006 6:40:25 PM PST by avile
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To: Alouette
Judaism is a religion, not a race

I'm quite well aware of the difference, buddy. But, in my experiences with Jews, a lot of them (the ones I knew, anyway), treated their Jewishness as if it were a gene pool that needed to be protected. I must say that I also knew and know many of them that didn't exhibit that kind of protectionism.
39 posted on 11/12/2006 6:45:01 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

I am not your buddy, cupcake.


40 posted on 11/12/2006 6:48:59 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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