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God Fearing
The New York Times ^ | November 12, 2006 | JOHN WILSON

Posted on 11/12/2006 8:36:45 AM PST by Condor 63

And part of the job of a writer in 2006, so it seems, is to comment on evangelicals or “conservative Christians” more generally, the way that many writers in the late ’60s and early ’70s — novelists, poets, cultural critics, anyone whose opinions regularly appeared in print — felt obliged to weigh in on blackness, often with embarrassing results.

In their fictional guise, evangelicals and their kin — fundamentalists, Pentecostals and all manner of weird cultists calling fervently on the name of Jesus — are usually side characters, rarely protagonists, except, of course, in the alternative universe of so-called Christian fiction, where all the protagonists are evangelicals, and in coming-of-age stories in which a youthful protagonist attains enlightenment and leaves faith behind. Sometimes these fictional evangelicals are ominous figures: glassy-eyed pro-lifers hellbent on murdering doctors and bombing abortion clinics, or charismatic psychopaths like the villain in Henning Mankell’s “Before the Frost,” who is mentored by Jim Jones of Jonestown fame. Mostly, though, they are drawn in broadly satiric strokes (see for example the “moaners” of the First Resurrectionist Maritime Assembly for God in Carl Hiaasen’s new novel, “Nature Girl”). Charmless, ignorant, homophobic and either brazenly hypocritical or obnoxiously sincere, they quote Scripture unctuously and have bad sex.

“Darwin,” muses a clueless Pentecostal mother in Kelly Kerney’s novel “Born Again.” “Isn’t that the guy who thinks God is a monkey?”

A reader who moves from the fiction shelf to the stacks of reportage and commentary may experience cognitive dissonance. The evangelical buffoons who populate so many novels these days seem hardly capable of organizing a local witch-burning, yet their nonfictional counterparts are said to be on the verge of turning these United States into a theocracy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; nytimes; theocracy; theophobia

1 posted on 11/12/2006 8:36:47 AM PST by Condor 63
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To: Condor 63

Hm, looks promising.

But it's the NYT, and I've been hurt before.

Then again, decades ago the LAT did an astonishing objective series on how the abortion issue was being reported. So....

Sigh. I'll check it out.


2 posted on 11/12/2006 8:40:38 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Condor 63

What on earth does the NYT know about Christianity?


3 posted on 11/12/2006 8:47:16 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: Condor 63

Okay, I'm back.

Typical, they choose someone associated with Christianity Astray. After a promising start, his premise is, "Oh, don't worry about us. We're fractured and ineffective. Besides, you really should be a little more tolerant, 'kay?"

The writer also mentions along the way that, of his four children, three did not grow up to be evangelicals. I know you can't charge kids' sins directly to their parents, but it is something to consider.

Maybe he's bucking for House Evangelical.


4 posted on 11/12/2006 8:48:57 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: rlmorel

Not much, I think they gleen everything they know from what ever hollywood produces, which they base on what the NYT knows...


5 posted on 11/12/2006 8:51:50 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: BibChr
Maybe he's bucking for House Evangelical.

LOL - House Evangelical at the NYT carries about as much weight as the House Hockey Fan does in Alabama....

Which is a subject I know a little about. ;-)

6 posted on 11/12/2006 8:56:43 AM PST by Condor 63
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To: rlmorel
"What on earth does the NYT know about Christianity?"

Or even "...good sex..." for that matter???

LOL :):):)

Nancee

7 posted on 11/12/2006 9:01:01 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Condor 63
i would like to read that article but it appears I have to register w/ the NYT on-line to do so. I'll pass.

I always find it laughable when "newspapers" or the other outlets of the MSM, pontificate about or characterize Christians as being ignorant, intolerant, and violent.

I bet they personally do not know any Christians, have never read the Bible or have gone to Church to hear what is preached.

And they have done none of the above regarding Islam but they "know" Islam is "the religion of peace".

What is their basis of knowledge for all this blabbering?
Research?, Experience?, Analysis?
No, it is because they believe it to be so, in other words because they say so. They believe it, they said it, that settles it.

That's why the MSM is ridiculous.
8 posted on 11/12/2006 9:05:48 AM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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To: rlmorel

If all in religious circles depended on the New York Slimes
they would be like Elton John, no religion.

It seem as though the New York Slimes wants leaders like the Roman Empire once had. Now take Caligula and Nero, these are the leaders of choice for the Slimes.

They, the Slimes cant wait until America is as degenerate as Rome once was, believe me, we aren't that for away from becoming as Rome once was.


9 posted on 11/12/2006 9:06:58 AM PST by buck61
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To: Condor 63

I was also thinking of House Conservatives, like George Will. Count on them not to be too challenging, and occasionally to turn on their own.


10 posted on 11/12/2006 9:12:53 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: buck61
This is Elton John's idea of religion:

Can you say "homoeroticpedophilia"?

Knew you could.

11 posted on 11/12/2006 9:13:53 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: Condor 63; melancholy
LOL!!

Nancee

12 posted on 11/12/2006 9:27:13 AM PST by Nancee (Nancee Lynn Cheney)
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To: Condor 63

Fear God and fear all else less.


13 posted on 11/12/2006 9:32:28 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Nancee
Or even "...good sex..." for that matter???

Having an orgasm when beating on Republicans?

14 posted on 11/12/2006 9:50:12 AM PST by melancholy (A new axis of evil: Nooks & Iranies allied with the "American" NeocoMs led by Abu Jack al Murthawi.)
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To: rlmorel

1. In the picture, is this a shadow on his crutch or just wishful thinking?

2- On other thought, it's not a shadow and is caused by the right arm of the guy sitting behind him. His right arm seems to vanish in a black hole.

3- From (2-), when Elton farts, does he soot his briefs? Assuming he wears any, of course!


15 posted on 11/12/2006 9:55:29 AM PST by melancholy (A new axis of evil: Nooks & Iranies allied with the "American" NeocoMs led by Abu Jack al Murthawi.)
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To: Condor 63
This is quite something for the Times. But Wilson isn't a Times writer. He's the editor of Books and Culture which is published by Christianity Today

Dig the last paragraph:

Evidently we still are. But such is life in a pluralistic nation. Even as book after book sounds the alarm about the evangelical menace — coming in January, Chris Hedges’ “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America” — conservative evangelical activists are sending out fund-raising letters portraying themselves as a beleaguered remnant. The reality, as usual, is considerably messier.

Chris Hedges is a Timesman, and more representative of the paper, though he goes much further than his colleagues. You can find his essay, "The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism," the "article that no major publication would print" on the Internet.

16 posted on 11/12/2006 10:33:08 AM PST by x
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To: Condor 63

Not a bad article, but not much sense of Christian conviction coming through, either. Any that he has, he is holding back, so as not to offend his audience.

Also, notice that the NYTimes has to bring in an outsider to write this once-yearly caution against demonizing Evangelicals. God forbid that they should hire a genuinely religious person as their own religion writer, to explain things to their readers on a regular basis.


17 posted on 11/12/2006 10:42:44 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: melancholy
I just knew I should have stayed away from this quote...the minute I hit the "post", though once again, your humor is both quick and very, very funny!! :)

Nancee

18 posted on 11/12/2006 11:01:28 AM PST by Nancee (Nancee Lynn Cheney)
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