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The Donald Rumsfeld I know isn't the one you know
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | Nov. 12, 2006 | Douglas J. Feith

Posted on 11/12/2006 8:01:47 AM PST by rhema

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To: rhema
If events contradict them, don't suppress the bad news; rather, change your preconceptions and theories.

Then why has the current static situation been allowed to continue for so long?

121 posted on 11/12/2006 6:23:02 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Beth528

Maybe someone should send it to Rush or Sean. Either of them have the means to get this broadcast to the country asap.... great article.


122 posted on 11/12/2006 6:28:03 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: potlatch


Bump


123 posted on 11/12/2006 6:42:35 PM PST by devolve ( _note_the_Green/Libertarian_candidates?)
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To: devolve

An ENTHUSIASTIC bump, right??


124 posted on 11/12/2006 6:45:17 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Cheburashka

Yes China, North Korea, Iran and Iraq. The Army has to be ready to fight any of these armies. In its current condition it can fight none of them effectively. We only have the nuclear option left because of the errosion of the force(s) by a poor maintenance of the Army by Congress and previous degradation from prior administrations and a reluctance of the current administration to face the facts.


125 posted on 11/12/2006 6:48:55 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: potlatch


Not really

Lots of posts here remind me of fired General Pansy Clark


126 posted on 11/12/2006 6:58:43 PM PST by devolve ( _note_the_Green/Libertarian_candidates?)
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To: devolve

You just need a beer and some nachos!!


127 posted on 11/12/2006 7:03:54 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: ArtyFO
The enterprize should never have been undertaken without a draft or an increase in forces and a force sufficient to complete the mission. Shenseki was right. Trying to fight a war on the cheap is the problem. If the resources can't be raised politically or economically, then just don't invade.

The "invasion" of Iraq was one of the most stunning military success stories of all time, with the smallest number of troops on the ground, completed in record time. Shinseki, was NOT right.

Period 1: March 20, 2003 through through May 1, 2003: (the end of major combat)
Total US Hostile Casualties = 108

May 2, 2003 through October 31, 2003: (6 months following end of major combat)
Total US Hostile Casualties = 121

See hostile breakdown here
See monthly breakdown here.

Just what the heck were 400,000 additional troops supposed to do? The first real sign of trouble came a year later, in April 2004.

The problem began when another Rumsfeld critic, retired Army General Major General Paul Eaton, failed at his 2003-2004 tour as chief of the U.S. training mission in Iraq... His tenure was characterized by uneven training efforts and some embarassing moments--notably, Iraqi units breaking under fire. Eaton was eventually replaced by Lieutenant General David Paetraeus, who turned the program around, and oversaw the training of more than 80 Iraqi battalions during his tenure. Read more here.

The plan was to quickly train a new Iraqi Army, to join with our foces, as they have now. Eaton blew it then had the unmitigated gall to call for Rummy's head as did Shinseki.

Shinseki, Riggs ... virtually all of these officers were in senior positions in the mid-to-late 1990s, when the Clinton Administration cut four divisions from the active Army. Did any of these generals oppose that move, realizing that it would mean "fewer boots on the ground" in a future conflict? Ironically, some of these generals--including Shinseki and Riggs--seemed willing to trade troops for the next generation of super weapons,

128 posted on 11/12/2006 7:04:40 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: rhema; bitt

What a wonderful article!
Nothing will ever change my opinion of him.
He's served his country far better than most.

Thank you for the post and ping!


129 posted on 11/12/2006 7:41:42 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Pukin Dog
Rumsfeld did not want to spend the next two years under oath to a Democratic Senate, so he left immediately and took the headlines away from the Dems victory. He would have left at the end of the year anyway.

Dog: Do you know that for a fact or is that an opinion?

Very interesting.

130 posted on 11/12/2006 8:31:45 PM PST by evad
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To: rhema

My nephew was in Iraq and he said everyone liked Rummy, including the Iraqis.


131 posted on 11/12/2006 8:38:55 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: bitt

Most excellent Rummy pic, bitt.


132 posted on 11/12/2006 8:40:50 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: rhema


May the force be with you
133 posted on 11/12/2006 9:02:53 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: Howlin

I don't know if you've spotted this, but you might want to add it to your bookmarks.


134 posted on 11/12/2006 9:20:03 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Just A Nobody

With 400,000 troops you can disarm the entire country. With 400,000 troops you have a big footprint. You can man every intersection in the country. With 400,000 troops you can encircle Baghdad and search every building in the city. With 400,000 troops you can collect all the ammunition in the country and round up all ex Iraqi military. With 400,000 troops Faluja doesn't happen. With 400,000 troops you can seal the borders. With 400,000 troops......Bla, Bla Bla


135 posted on 11/12/2006 9:22:56 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: mulligan
And now we go from a great "Rummy" to an old re-tread dummy. So sad and so bad for this nation.

If you think for a minute that Rummy would leave the stage and allow the military to be put into the hands of a dummy, then you never understood Rumsfeld (or GW for that matter).

136 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:30 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


137 posted on 11/12/2006 9:28:35 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: rhema

BTTT!


138 posted on 11/12/2006 10:03:53 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Gondring

I don't think I articulated my question well. What changes in the conditions did he fail to recognize and get beyond?


139 posted on 11/13/2006 12:12:47 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (Sorry, we don't want to stick around to see if we win; we'd rather vote ourselves off the island.)
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To: rhema

marked to read later


140 posted on 11/13/2006 12:34:46 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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