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TET II -- The End
Vanity with link to original article on Intellectual Conservative | November 12, 2006 | Christopher Barr

Posted on 11/12/2006 7:36:33 AM PST by FlameThrower

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To: txzman
Israel will be wiped out unless they act now...and they know it.
That little island,England, will experience increased attacks and it sure as hell won't be the IRA bombing it this time. France? Those street riots you have been hearing about are the spear points of what could be still another civil war. The message the Mullahs have been spreading about us is true, "America does not have the stomach for all out War" and now thanks to the left our allies are left twisting in a Sirocco of terrorism and our own country divided. All the terrorists need to be completely successful is for there to be a Civil War in our deeply divided country similar to the ones they have orchestraed in Iraq and Paris.
41 posted on 11/12/2006 10:20:32 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: FlameThrower
"The failure is ours, the American people’s."

In this regard, Iraq is quite similar to Viet Nam.

"Bush’s original strategy was preemption: to attack and destroy the terrorist in their homes before they could muster an attack. To eliminate the festering failed States that sustained them. It morphed under pressure to nation-building. We will soon adopt a third way: we will “redeploy” out of Iraq – tail between our legs. And the terrorist will follow us home. The nuclear attacks will be random, unstoppable and devastating."

Again just as in Viet Nam. The only difference was that Communism wasn't about destroying the Western ideology to death, which is the goal of Islam. It is mind blowing to believe the leftist's in this country, can't or won't understand and accept that fact.

I am sure that I am not the only one who knew exactly what needed to be done on 9/12/01. But I also knew we wouldn't have the fortitude to do it. There is still time. I am not quite as fatalistic as this excellent writer, but close. As, that said, the Rubicon is about to be crossed.

42 posted on 11/12/2006 10:21:46 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Gaffer

The damage has already been done. The important thing is to not go wobbly.


43 posted on 11/12/2006 10:29:06 AM PST by KyHammer (Get over it)
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To: FlameThrower

Personally, I agree with this author, but disagree about what the use of nukes in our cities would do. Face it, the nukes would kill mostly Democrats...


44 posted on 11/12/2006 10:31:39 AM PST by wastoute
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To: beebuster2000

An, I am with you mega bump.


45 posted on 11/12/2006 10:32:11 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Silly
Thanks. And no thanks.

It was a first draft -- written on a flight to the Midwest.

And no, I'll not try again. Too busy earning a living. Too pessimistic to think it will matter. Too old to care much what happens, for myself. Too disgusted to care much what happens to America.

Just scratching a last message in the sand to say "I told you so."
46 posted on 11/12/2006 10:49:58 AM PST by FlameThrower
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To: sauropod

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47 posted on 11/12/2006 10:50:52 AM PST by sauropod ("Come have some pie with me.")
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To: wastoute

They'll wipe out every financial institution and many companies.

People will stampede out into the suburbs. Civil war will ensue. (Look at Houston post-Katrina. Multiply by thousands.)

Distribution of food and medicine will suffer. Barter economies do not work well over long distances.

I'm sort of glad I'm approaching 60. Wouldn't want to be around like that for long.


48 posted on 11/12/2006 10:57:09 AM PST by FlameThrower
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To: KyHammer
Don't look for help from the White House though; they've fell into making up the facts to go along wtih their agenda.

I don't think Bush, Cheney and Rice are going softly into that good night.

49 posted on 11/12/2006 11:15:32 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: FlameThrower
Nukes are paradigm-shifting weapons that invalidate Segura’s Law. You can maintain a stiff upper lip to the occasional terror bombing, but stoical detachment cannot withstand nuclear attack.

Well, with respect and not to seem overly mordant, this is not shown. If the will to reply is not there, it isn't going to happen. And what might possibly motivate leadership not to reply to a nuclear terrorist attack?

That's very simple. A leadership with motivations other and superior to the defense of its citizens, such as the promotion of world government, might find not replying in its overall interest. One faced with massive retaliation from other governments who back the terrorists for their own interests might not reply. One weakened and enervated by faction might find it convenient not to reply if its ideological foes are the only ones attacked.

It's perfectly imaginable. I think that in the current radical wing of the Democratic party we see figures who are more than capable of allowing this sort of outrage in pursuit of some "higher" goal.

Do not give up your guns, because the police who will be told to protect you might just as easily be told not to. The same goes for national defense.

50 posted on 11/12/2006 11:32:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Gaffer

Thus always to tyrants.

It is why their party is consumed with gutting the second amendment.

Just think of it, if the average citizen could not purchase a firearm, you would have to get your firearms from Chucky Schumer's body guards. Just think, no thirty day waiting period.


51 posted on 11/12/2006 12:36:28 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: FlameThrower

Iraq - Tet Connection article.

There is hope though:
When Tet happened in 1968, it is true, the media and Cronkite went anti-war.

But Nixon stayed in there with the "Vietnamization strategy" for 4 years, and effectively brought the North Vietnamese to heel. It was only the fall of Nixon and the 1974 elections that brought us to the point of abandoning South Vietnam.

In Iraq we have had the "Tet" offensive since February, when the Golden Mosque bombing dealt a blow to Sunni Shiite comity and the death squads and Mahdi army got active.
The insurgency at the time was getting squeezed and Iraqi army training was finally starting to pay off.

From February to October, the Iraqi sectarian violence has been the driver of instability. Shiite armed groups have taken things into their own hands and the Sunni response has been to retreat to sectarianism and support of further insurgent violence. The only way to keep a clamp on it was to bring in US forces heavily in areas; it pacifies the small area, but leaves our forces exposed (hence higher death tolls) and doesnt solve the wider problem. The Iraqi army can do some good, but only so much. And Iraqi police is accused of being in cahoots with the death squads.

Democracy is supposed to be about replacing bullets with ballots, but the forces in Iraq refuse to play by those rules.

The successful way out - which I hope new DoD Secty Gate will pursue - is the same one that Nixon pursued... get Iraqis to defend themselves, with focus on traning and support.


52 posted on 11/12/2006 1:17:38 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Mike Darancette

"I don't think Bush, Cheney and Rice are going softly into that good night."

If they ever dare to go soft, give em some fire and brimstone over it ... comments@whitehouse.gov


53 posted on 11/12/2006 1:18:49 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: FlameThrower

They are going to hit multiple cities with dirty bombs not nukes. The nukes come in a few years when Iran gets them.


54 posted on 11/12/2006 1:31:40 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: FlameThrower

They are going to hit multiple cities with dirty bombs not nukes. The nukes come in a few years when Iran gets them.


55 posted on 11/12/2006 1:31:45 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: John Lenin

It's a couple of years I was writing about. We will not be able to stop the nukes from getting out. Too much fallout from Iraq.


56 posted on 11/12/2006 1:40:53 PM PST by FlameThrower
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To: FlameThrower

It is so sad to think that a pledge from the American people is only good for 4 years at most.


57 posted on 11/12/2006 1:44:44 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Billthedrill
Do not give up your guns, because the police who will be told to protect you might just as easily be told not to. The same goes for national defense.

Best quote I've seen yet. The next two years will be spent restocking provisions and ammo in this household.

58 posted on 11/12/2006 1:45:16 PM PST by RightWingRadio
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To: WOSG

The war isn't about Iraq any more than it's about Afganistan. Even if Iraq comes though this, we will not be able to act fast enough to save ourselves.


59 posted on 11/12/2006 1:49:27 PM PST by FlameThrower
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To: txzman
After a nuclear weapon goes off in Washington DC, what's left of American resolve will get let loose.

"Jericho" bump.

60 posted on 11/12/2006 1:50:11 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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