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Tax ruling will save UK drinkers billions
The Telegraph ^ | November 12, 2006 | Justin Stares and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 11/11/2006 8:44:29 PM PST by bruinbirdman

British shoppers will soon be able to buy cut-price alcohol and cigarettes from the Continent without leaving home, as a result of an extraordinary legal test case that threatens to blow a multi-billion pound hole in the Treasury's coffers.

The European Court of Justice is expected to rule next week that goods can be bought in other EU states and delivered to the door while only the duty levied in the country of origin is paid. This is often a fraction of that charged in Britain.

If, as appears likely, the court rubber-stamps a previous adjudication by its advocate general, shoppers will be free to use the internet or mail order companies to find the best bargains around Europe and have them shipped home for their own consumption.

The potential savings are huge: 200 cigarettes purchased in Latvia cost only £7.20, a saving of about £43, while several European countries charge no duty on wine.

Businesses across Europe are gearing up for the changes, but the British Retail Confederation warns that UK businesses will lose unless action is taken to harmonise duty rates across the Continent.

The Treasury earns £15 billion a year from excise duty on alcohol and cigarettes — enough to pay the running costs of the Home Office, the Foreign Office and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

Tax experts believe the ruling, due on November 23, will hasten moves towards single rates of tax across the EU and hit ferry companies, which rely heavily on "booze cruises".

Legal advice drawn up by the accountants Ernst & Young says: "The judgment… is likely to allow individuals to purchase alcohol over the internet or by telephone from other EU member states and to have their purchases delivered to them at home, while still paying low duty rates in the country of purchase.

"Retailers and distributors in EU member states with low alcohol duty rates are likely to be able to increase direct sales of alcohol to customers."

The dramatic change in British tax policy hinges on an attempt by a Dutch group to have wine they had bought in France shipped home, without physically accompanying their purchases. The Dutch government levied alcohol duty on the wine, but after a legal challenge the European court's advocate-general, Francis Jacob, found it had been wrong to do so.

A number of European governments, including Britain, have urged the court to reject the adjudication. But in 80 per cent of cases the court upholds the advocate-general's decision, and Charles Meechan, an Ernst & Young director, said: "All the evidence is that the ruling will not go the UK's way."

Britain has one of the highest excise rates in Europe and shoppers are expected to rush to take advantage of the ruling, which cannot be appealed against and would take immediate effect. At present, Britons can bring alcohol and tobacco with them into the country if they can show it is for personal consumption.

Jeremy Beadle, the chief executive of the Wine and Spirits Trade Association, said the case could have a serious impact. "The key disincentive until now has been that you have to travel with the goods."

HM Revenue and Customs refused to comment on the case but the Euro-MP Charles Tannock, the Tory spokesman on the duty-free trade, said: "This is going to be a huge embarrassment to Gordon Brown and his tax-raising attempts. It will also increase pressure on member states to harmonise excise duty. If we are going to have a single market this must be permitted."


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1 posted on 11/11/2006 8:44:30 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
Woo hoo- the rabid President Bush haters in Brittain can now get drunk and spout hteir vitriol for less money- (Note- this isn't a slam on the good Brittish folks have common sense and support the war on terror and recognize that we ALL face a VERY real and dangerous threat- just to be clear)

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

2 posted on 11/11/2006 9:07:18 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: CottShop

Another *Note*: This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Bush, the election, or the war on terror. Seems to me there's, oh...a couple of thousand threads to choose from for that. It's almost as if you're neurotically spamming threads...(mods?)

I was gonna post on topic (just got back from the UK/EU where yes, I shopped some duty free), but not if this is where it's heading.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 9:33:17 PM PST by CeDex
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To: bruinbirdman
IV with infusion pump would be the way to go.
4 posted on 11/11/2006 9:36:02 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: bruinbirdman

If it costs roughly fifty pounds for a carton of cigarettes, I am surprised we haven't heard of any "cigarettes for votes" scandals.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 9:59:00 PM PST by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: xc1427

$ 95 US for a carton of butts ??? Almost 10 bucks a pack ! Man oh man !


6 posted on 11/11/2006 10:17:24 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Frightening, isn't it?


7 posted on 11/11/2006 10:21:59 PM PST by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: CeDex

Pull the bug out of your butt Cedex!!! yopu didn't haVE to be a jerk about it!!!


8 posted on 11/11/2006 10:25:23 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: CeDex

Was just having a little fun with an off topic- you din';t have to come along & piss all over it- a simple 'please keep on topic would have sufficed' but nope- yas just had to sday somethign personal and negative didn't ya? Good goin!


9 posted on 11/11/2006 10:30:21 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: sushiman
Having lived in Germany for 13 years and traveled throughout Europe...I can tell you this tax business will make you weep. The health mafia has gone hand-in-hand with the tax mafia...to increase the taxes on smokes and booze about every eighteen months. Its usually two to three percent. So over a ten year period...when you add up the numbers...its easily a 25-percent increase.

The health mafia believes they will eventually cut both smoking and drinking. Last year...the finance ministry in Germany suddenly woke up and realized that tax revenue from smokes was off by $500-plus million. The health ministry was very happy about this and talked for days about their success. The tax folks were extremely negative about this sudden decrease. Then reality set in....Germans are going to Poland, Luxembourg, and Czech to buy their smokes. The number of illegal smokes imports has tripled in the past two years. Cops are pulling over drivers near the border and finding a hundred cartons stashed inside.

When you go to Denmark, Sweden or Norway...you will immediately notice a huge increase in booze costs. Beer is still reasonable...but everything else is out of sight. A small bottle of Jack Daniels will run $40 easily...while $13 back in Memphis. If you want cheap booze...you to your local trucker buddy who picks up a case of Russian vodka for $25 and illegally brings it back in for you. In Finland, the state runs the booze sales...like a tiny grandma's shop...with two or three choices for each type of booze...all heavily priced to keep you from excess drinking. Yet, you walk around in Finland on a Thursday afternoon after work, and 30 percent of the folks are pretty wasted anyway (men and women).

I'm married to a German gal, who smokes and drinks coffee excessively. Every five months...we pack up the car and run off to a town just across the Luxembourg border...to buy a dozen cartons of smokes and several containers of coffee. By the time you add the cost of the fuel to drive over...we still save almost $100 by paying the lesser Lux tax...plus Lux fuel is 20 percent cheaper to buy as well. Almost every German who lives within 60 miles of the Lux border...shops entirely across the border now, and save around $1000 per year when you add up everything.

So this tax ruling has a huge impact. You could have a tiny country like Estonia who could become the "smokes" capital of Europe if they cut their tax rate and went for bulk sales. And the tax revenue offices who loose income? They will have to find a new gimmick to make up for lost revenue.
10 posted on 11/11/2006 10:47:14 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: CottShop

And what do you mean by telling me what this thread is about and what I can and can not respond with? The topic struck me that those who hate the U.S- the liberal left in Britain- are now getting cheaper liquor- Tell ya hwat CDex- I'll run all my posts by you for approval from now on just to be sure it meets you demands- Not! you want ot discuss the cheaper taxes- have at it- Seems your post was nothing but a complaint- totally off topic & neurotically spammy- but I'll tell ya what- I won't cry to the mods- I'll let it ride- you'rwe welcome


11 posted on 11/11/2006 10:51:20 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: pepsionice

Thanks for the very informative and interesting post .

I haven't been to England in over 20 years , but when I was last there the price of cigs and booze , while higher than the USA , wasn't out of sight . I smoked at the time and always brought back Brit cigs for myself and for others . Booze ? All I drank in England was the beer , and I love it dearly , but even I would cust back if prices became excessively expensive .

Japanese cigarettes are still taxed relatively low . One cam buy a pack for about $ 2 either in the shops or in one of the myriad vending machines lining street corners and storefronts across the land . Alcohol taxes are reasonable as well , but the tax on beer is a bit excessive . A case of Kirin for example will set you back $ 40 . It's probably less expensive the in states .

Keep in mind , the national sales tax is at 5% at present , and we expect an increase within the next two years to 8% . This tax is levied on every good and service inc. medicine , hospital bills , food ...nothing is exempt .


12 posted on 11/11/2006 11:03:33 PM PST by sushiman
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To: CottShop
Relax, Sparky. The thread's back on track. That said, there's nothing more I can add that hasn't been addressed above; even that IV pump looks good (though I'm sure the thick, delicious, frothy head that a pint of Guinness produces might clog it up some.

Oh, wait...there is one thing, since you insisted on bringing it up over the course of several rants. I just got back from a six week vacation (Britain, France, Germany and the Netherlands) and didn't encounter one case of anti-Americanism. Not one. Nada.

Now, is this because I'm just a regular who gets on OK with folks, and most people are pretty decent folks themselves, as we're all quite basically alike (esp. in the west ie., Canada, UK, EU, Scandinavia, etc.), OR...do you simply watch too much TV/spend too much time on the internet, and are completely convinced the entire planet hates Yanks, right down to the last citizen? If the latter's the case, perhaps you should travel the world and prove them otherwise, no?

In the meantime, I'm quite enjoying my duty free British Dunhill ciggies, though they were still quite expensive (but much tastier than Camels). Thanks for asking.

13 posted on 11/12/2006 12:00:43 AM PST by CeDex
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To: pepsionice

"I can tell you this tax business will make you weep."

Every month when I look at my pay statement I cry a lot!

Too bad I did not promise to leave the country if the Democrats took over the House and Senate. If I had. . . I'd be booking a flight back home (Alabama) for me and the family!!


14 posted on 11/12/2006 11:16:46 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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