American Drugs In Egyptian Mummies

Colorado State Edu ^ | S A Wells

[SunkenCiv]

Maybe this would make a good idea for a major Hollywood movie, perhaps starring Johnny Depp as an undead precolumbian ship's captain specializing in transoceanic trafficking in chocolate, cocaine, and tobacco. ;')

[DBrow]

Admittedly I skimmed the article, but I did not see where they detected cocaine metabolite or nicotine metabolite. That would be a critical finding, since if there is no metabolite, the drug was likely not processed in a human.

As for THC, no big whoop, it's native to the area and is not a New World plant.

If they had coca and nicotiana, you'd expect the Egyptians to have the other remarkable New World plants too- corn, capsicum, tomato, sweet potato, potato, pumpkin, and some of the unique daturas and possibly ipomea if they were that interested in entheogens as to import tobacco. Yet as far as I know no such finding has been made.

[SunkenCiv]

By the way, did the story say that these mummies came out of their sarcophagi like this, or are these mummies that had been discovered previously? If the latter is the case, it's likely contamination from those who handled the mummies first.

Not unless the people who contaminated the mummies with cannibis handled only the lungs, while those contaminated with cocaine handled only the stomach.

[ValerieUSA]

Those who were contaminated with cocaine would be handling another organ.

[DBrow]

"Since all those items can be found in the Near East and the Middle East"

Cannabis is the only native plant, back then. Columbus and other explorers brought back tobacco, tomato, hot peppers, and other plants which were gladly established.

But pre-Columbus, no tobacco or coca or turkeys or corn or tomatoes or potatoes in Europe, near East, Far East, China, and so forth.

Hot peppers spread to India and died out in Europe, to be discovered much later as "Indian spices".

Someone above speculated that coca was a very ancient Egyptian plant that got moved to Peru or Brazil, then went extinct in Egypt- same process, but I don't think it likely.

[blam]

We have lots of suspects:

ETHNIC GROUPS IN PRE-COLUMBIAN AMERICA

[SunkenCiv]

And noodles, no noodles until Marco Polo? ;')

Romans went to war on diet of pizza, dig shows.
The Scotsman | Mon 26 Aug 2002 | John Innes
Posted on 08/26/2002 5:20:42 PM EDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/739684/posts

[tarawa]

This is absolutely fascinating. It reminds me of the Scot mummies found in China (if I could find the article, I would reference it). Please add me to the GGG ping list if you would. Thanks.

[DBrow]

Hey, cool link, thanks!

[blam]

We have it very well documented.

The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy

[blam]

"This is absolutely fascinating. It reminds me of the Scot mummies found in China (if I could find the article, I would reference it). "

You'll like this one too.

On ThePresence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

[ApplegateRanch]

vaguely remember my Early Western World professor mentioning this. He also pointed out several ancient Egyption sculptures which seemd to depict people chewing coca.

Maybe chewing khat leaves, rather than coca? At least Khat is east African &/or Indian.

[Cacique]

btt

[oyez]

And Marco Polo brought back all those nice spices, too. Food no longer had to taste like paper pulp.

[SunkenCiv]

Oh, the food was quite tasty in Roman times.

Google

[slaymakerpowertape]

That site is ridiculous nonsense. According to them, a statuette with a receding forehead from like the 8th c AD must have been made by a 'Neanderthal.' Neanderthals a) only lived in Eurasia b) died out many thousands of years before then c) did not produce any surviving sculpture that I know of.

[SunkenCiv]

Read about it in Gavin Menzies' book on Minoan 'Atlantis', but this snip comes from a skepticultist blogger:

In 1982, J. R. Steffan reported that he had found a single specimen of Lasioderma serricorne (commonly called the tobacco beetle) in the mummy of Ramses II. More turned up in Egypt (one was found in Tut's tomb), and in 2000 Eva Panagiotakopulu reported a specimen found on Santorini.

[SunkenCiv]

The Mystery of the Cocaine Mummies [Transcript]

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 11/11/2006. Thanks blam.

• Nymphaea caerulea

  Nymphaea caerulea, known primarily as blue lotus (or blue Egyptian lotus), but also blue water lily (or blue Egyptian water lily), and sacred blue lily (or sacred narcotic lily of the nile), is a water-lily in the genus Nymphaea. Like other species in the genus, the plant contains the psychoactive alkaloid apomorphine. It was known to the Mayan and Ancient Egyptian civilisations. Its original habitat may have been along the Nile and other parts of East Africa. It spread more widely in ancient times, including to the Indian Subcontinent and Thailand.

[lepton]

Of the nine mummies evaluated, ll showed signs of ocaine and hashish Tetrahydrocannabinol),

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11? Or [a]ll?