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To: soccermom
>>>>For the umpteenth time, please explain to the class how citing FACTS about Reagan's record is a "cheap pot shot." You can't. You can't defend those parts of his record.

Two different things. A cheap shot is a deliberate attack against a defenseless opponent and a pot shot is a deliberate attack taken at an easy target. Reagan is dead and can't defend himself. You keep ignoring the obvious, no facts have been denied.

For the umpteenth time, little harpy girl in the back row of the class, I've explained all the decisions that Reagan made which YOU seem to have a problem with. Yet you still can't seem to control yourself, keep your emotions in check and stop shooting your big mouth off about how Reagan let you down. Reagan left office in 1989! The issue is Bush.

Frankly, its an honor to defend Reagan, and I will continue to do so.

>>>>And then you finish up with charming words like "dumbass" and tell me to grow up!

BFD. Politics isn't for the thin skinned, or the faint of heart. Stop your whining already.

>>>>>I'm not the one living in a dream world ...

Right. You're just in a state of anger and shock over the election results. Instead of demanding a return to a winning conservative agenda of Reagan and Gingrich, you sit around bitching about life because Bush turned out to be a lousy, incompetent leader of his party and of the nation.

George W. Bush suffered the worst Congressional defeat by a Republican President since Herbert Hoover in the 1932 election. Bush ignored his conservative base and the GOP paid the price at the polls on November 7th. The Democrats are back in power thanks to the poor leadership of Dubya.

"There is only one way to make government bite the bullet .... on all those things that should be a matter of concern. And that is to hold all elected officials accountable. Match their performance with their promises, and if you find some who don't measure up, vote them out of office.
--- Governor Ronald Reagan, Speech, Oct. 15, 1974.

181 posted on 11/16/2006 8:33:48 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man
Two different things. A cheap shot is a deliberate attack against a defenseless opponent and a pot shot is a deliberate attack taken at an easy target. Reagan is dead and can't defend himself.Oh baloney! It is not an "attack" to point to the truth of his political record any more than it is an "attack" to point to Bush's record. I'm not making any personal comments about the man. If you are going be bring Reagan up, you can't turn around and hide behind the "he is dead" argument. There is nothing to "defend". Either he has less-than-conservative acheivements on his record or he doesn't. If you can't handle the TRUTH, that is your problem. Pointing to the truth is not an attack.

For the umpteenth time, little harpy girl in the back row of the class, I've explained all the decisions that Reagan made which YOU seem to have a problem with......Yet you still can't seem to control yourself, keep your emotions in check and stop shooting your big mouth off about how Reagan let you down. "There ya go again" with the deliberate distortion of my argument and more personal attacks. Remind me again who can't seem to control his emotions and his big mouth? I'm not the one making personal attacks. Furthermore, I have never, ever said Reagan let me down. I've merely pointed out that he, like all politicians, did not always adhere to his conservative principles. I can accept that and see him for the great leader he was, without making up fantasies about him. You'll have to refresh my memory on Reagan's decisions. I don't recall you explaining his appointment of Justice O'Conner. Nor the abortion decision, other than to say that it "only" pertained to rape, incest and the life of the mother. Fine. That still doesn't square with his words and no one was holding a gun to his head. And sorry, "He did it as a last resort" is not a sufficient explanation for me. Try this on for size: "He did it because he is a wise and effective politician who understood that compromise is sometimes necessary --- a strategy I and my fellow conservative "purists" can't seem to tolerate for anybody but Reagan."

BFD. Politics isn't for the thin skinned, or the faint of heart. Stop your whining already. And yet Reagan, one of the most successful and effective politicians of our time, never had to resort to personal attacks. He was always a civil gentleman. You could learn something from him. Not whining...just illustrating how you're the emotional, out-of-control one.

Right. You're just in a state of anger and shock over the election results. Instead of demanding a return to a winning conservative agenda of Reagan and Gingrich, you sit around bitching about life because Bush turned out to be a lousy, incompetent leader of his party and of the nation. "There ya go again" with your distortions. I've done no such things. I've just pointed to the reality of the situation. We've validated Bin Laden's strategy. BTW, you've still failed to explain to me how "Conservatism works every time it is tried" when Santorum and Hayworth lost. This election wasn't as simple as a failure to get back to conservative agenda, as much as you would like to spin it that way.

Bush ignored his conservative base and the GOP paid the price at the polls on November 7th. Oh you mean he ignored his base when he responded to their demands for the Supreme Court nominee? (Something conservatives never whined about when Reagan nominated O'Conner). Or when he responded to their demands on the Dubai ports? Or do you mean when he signed the fence legislation? It seems to me Bush was tap-dancing for the conservative base and it earned him nothing. Thank goodness the conservative base wasn't as petty toward Reagan then for his less-than-conservative decisions as you guys are now. But then, he never was able to get a Republican congress in the first place to lose.

I'll tell ya what. Why don't you ask Santa if he can bring you a brand-new Reagan for Christmas? One with all the heroics you envision and none of those pesky little details about factual records! Of course, Santa might find some of your discourse puts you on the "naughty" list. But, then, you can accuse Santa of taking cheap pot shots at your record! ;-)
182 posted on 11/20/2006 9:28:56 AM PST by soccermom
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