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Schwarzenegger Implores GOP To Follow Script of His Sequel: Court the Center
Washington Post ^ | Nov. 10, 2006 | John Pomfret

Posted on 11/10/2006 9:06:56 PM PST by FairOpinion

In his victory speech Tuesday night to a confetti-swamped crowd at the Beverly Hilton, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger had a message for the rest of the Republican Party after its worst defeat in decades.

Follow "the California way," he said. "We are proving to the nation that there is another way to go, a better path to solve problems."

Schwarzenegger's landslide victory in a largely Democratic state illustrates the growing power of moderate candidates and the electoral appeal of bipartisanship, and it could contain important lessons for Republicans and Democrats as they seek to position themselves in the future, analysts and politicians said.

"If I was a Republican National Committee chair, I would hire Arnold out and teach Republicans what is necessary to put together a winning campaign," said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a political analyst at the University of Southern California. "He really is the poster boy of what Republicans have denied for so long. Elections are won from the center."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldlegacy; elections; gopvictory2008; leftisnotcenter; liberals; rino; rinonator; schwarznegger
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To: higgmeister
You are one of the few I have seen on this forum who understands TR's disastrous legacy. Recall also that military spending under his globalist leadership led to the debt that was used to justify the Fed and the regulatory architecture he spawned has been the true means by which global corportate power has been consoldiated.
321 posted on 11/11/2006 7:05:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Socializing children is hazardous to their health.)
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To: frankensnake
I think there's a big open opportunity for Republicans that we need to grab. Everybody's for conservation, clean water and air, ending our dependence on foreign oil, etc.

Not the greenies. They're posturing about the environment, but in reality they act to make money for the owners of tax-exempt "charitable" foundations. It's a racket.

322 posted on 11/11/2006 7:16:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Socializing children is hazardous to their health.)
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To: L.N. Smithee

So Republicans should just hire homosexual activists as their advisors and become Democrats-lite, voting for Democrat-lite measures. Or just dissolve party lines and become Democrans. Yes! That's it! In fact, get rid of all individuality whatsoever and name us all one name. A hive! Yes - a hive!

Whatever Is Not Forbidden Ss Mandatory!


323 posted on 11/11/2006 7:19:27 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: fieldmarshaldj; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
I agree about the speech, lol. It is telling by what it didn't say. No use of the word "Republican." No mention of the name of his opponent (that guy Angelides). No mention of any other Republican candidates that were supposed to be on a "joint ticket". In fact, he gave his speech so early that the other candidates were still up in their hotel rooms watching the early results. I'm sure he just forgot to tell them to come downstairs and join in. /s

The more I watch this Governor, the more I can't forget his early prounouncements about governing like Hiram Johnson. Of course, the media jumped on the positives about Hiram--the father of the Recall, Referendum and Initiative process. What they never mentioned was his efforts to totally destroy the GOP. I just again read that old article I posted last year. The similarities are stunning.

324 posted on 11/11/2006 7:51:02 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion
A moderate Republican will never be elected in Sacramento ever again when Arnold steps down.

What Arnold has done is move the goalposts to the Left so significantly that the Republican running in 2010 will have no choice but to run as an out-and-out liberal.

And you know who always win when the race is between a liberal Republican and Democrat.

325 posted on 11/11/2006 7:57:21 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: FairOpinion

"Republicans may not like the message, but you can't argue with victory."

Sure you can, Arnold ran in the most oddball state in the Union, even New York makes more sense.


326 posted on 11/11/2006 8:07:39 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: FairOpinion

I guess you want another "thumping" of the Republicans in 208, President Hillary, and eternal Dem rule, instead of doing what it takes to WIN.






What will we "WIN"?


327 posted on 11/11/2006 8:16:41 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Political Junkie Too
Question for Schwarzenegger: With no Republicans in California in Executive offices (I'm not counting Schwarzenegger and liberal Poisner), with people like McClintock rejected, and the state legislature overly dominated by Democrats, exactly where does this "center" lie?

Excellent question. The premise of a "political center" was false to begin with. It never existed. It was a creation of the Democrats and liberal media to market liberalism as mainstream, which was born when the Democratic Leadership Council was co-created by Clinton in 1988.

328 posted on 11/11/2006 8:56:02 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: calcowgirl

Make sure you e-mail the chairman of the San Diego Republican Party Ron Nerhing about your concerns.

He's in the running to replace Duff Sundheim.
ronnehring.com

Explain that Arnold is killing the CAGOP like William Weld in MA.


329 posted on 11/11/2006 9:25:14 AM PST by Munson
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To: FairOpinion

I am sorry you do not know the difference between left and center.


330 posted on 11/11/2006 9:29:20 AM PST by omega4179 (NO RINOS 2008)
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To: goldstategop

I didn't vote for him either. Another thing -- one has to consider his victory to be one of a mega-superstar over a dweeb. What's the likelihood that Phil Angelides will be the Democrat nominee for Pres. in two years.


331 posted on 11/11/2006 9:40:31 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: FairOpinion
I agree with some of your comments, but disagree with Arnie's centralist advice.

Arnie was an aberration who could never have gotten through the primary without foisting full conservative colors. Had not the organizers of the recall been neutered he would not even been in the recall. I have serious doubts that McC could have won it, even if unopposed by Arnie, and a demonrat victory over the recall would have brought us even worse demonrat abuses. Arnie tried to foist these conservative colors until his initiatives lost so badly, especially with the rightmost sitting it out. I hope that in his heart he is conservative and 'giving' the left their small victories while stifling the more harmful ones. All I've got left is hope. An aberration, yeah, a Machiavellian aberration, but an aberration no less. His stick won't play in Peoria.

Here is the fact of the matter: in '94 the conservatives gave the Republicans a mandate to reduce government, to ensure our personal liberties, to combat a completely corrupt executive and to restore sanity to the legislative. They had 12 years to do this, but did the corollary occurred. Government grew, personal liberty was further squashed, they displayed their own problems with corruption and the insanity of legislation worsened, by the republican majority legislators yielding power and control to the deceitful and traitorous minority and their allies, the scumbag traitors in the media. Republicans will no longer be able to give the illusion that they are for the aforementioned conservative principles. The general population feels as if they've been 'chumped', and the won't be chumped by them again until something changes. Whether that be our reduction to third world status and our chains becoming even heavier, or the demonratz rapidly self-destructing, I dunno. What is the difference between the pubbies 'chumping' of the populace versus the demonratz constant chumping? The progressive nature of the scumbag, traitorous media for one, but even then their main tool is republican hypocrisy.

Moving to the center is bad advice. Holding to conservative principles, smaller government, cherishing the constitution, less government taxes and intrusion, protecting personal liberty, all without hypocrisy or deceit, (or internal attempts by the base to eat itself from fifth columnist ilk infiltrators), is, in my opinion, the way to go.

332 posted on 11/11/2006 9:41:41 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: higgmeister
When the Islamists come with the next attack against a Major Population Center, 95% of the casualties will be Dems.

I've thought that for a long time, but never had the courage to say it. Thank you for pointing it out.

333 posted on 11/11/2006 9:41:53 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
And you know who always win when the race is between a liberal Republican and Democrat.

One day some reeeally smart guy is going to notice a huge underserved conservative constituency, over in the corner, hands in pockets, all by its lonesome.

No doubt this smart politician will also know that expecting votes while giving intended voters nothing in return isn't a winning strategy.

Duh

334 posted on 11/11/2006 9:46:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: omega4179

"I am sorry you do not know the difference between left and center."


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Look in the mirror and say that to yourself.

CA Lib Dem controlled Legislature, Angelides = left
Arnold = center


335 posted on 11/11/2006 9:46:25 AM PST by FairOpinion (Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: 68 grunt

My concern is that dealing with the Dem controlled Congress will be extremely hard. If the Republicans and President Bush keep thwarting the Dems socialist agenda in a direct way, the Dems will be yelling for the next two years, how the Republicans are obstructing their agenda to "help" the American people, and the voters will feel they aren't getting enough from the government and it's all the fault of the Republicans. Then the Dems will ask the voters to give them a Dem president so they can renew their agenda "for a great society", free medical care, free... free... free everything, take from the rich, and so on. Then the voters will vote in a Dem president, the Republicans will stay home again, because they will be upset that Bush didn't produce miracles despite of the Dem Congress. Mark my words -- I don't like this, but I am afraid this is exactly what will happen.

Bush will have to work with the Dems and either give them real big major victories, which he is already doing by putting Gates in as SecDef, which in my opinion is a HUGE mistake -- or Bush needs to learn from the Arnold model, give them lots of small victories, but do NOT give in on major important issues. Unfortunately the signs point to the first, disastrous scenario. I am afraid President Bush really believes that "the American people" repudiated his Iraq strategy. With a Republican Congress he could have gone back to a tough stance against the terrorists, but now he can't.

President Bush and the Republicans didn't get their message out: we ARE winning the WoT, there are lots of positive accomplishments in Iraq, the economy is good, unemployment is at a 5 year low, etc. I don't see much change in the Republicans ability to articulate their accomplishments.

The Arnold model is to trumpet "bipartisanship", because that's what the voters are buying, but actually obstruct the Dem agenda on key issues and explain why he is doing it.

I don't think this, and what you propose: "Holding to conservative principles, smaller government, cherishing the constitution, less government taxes and intrusion, protecting personal liberty," are mutually exclusive at all.

Bush can't veto everything. The Arnold model is "have your cake and eat it too". Arnold ran on "no new taxes" and the new tax props lost. Republicans definitely need to resurrect their 1994 "Contract with America" and start running on it now. But they have no choice but to work with the Dems, since they are the majority, as a result of the ilk and gullible conservatives who stayed home.

I said all along -- and some Dems in CA were dumb enough to say it out loud, though nobody paid attention -- that the Dem win strategy was to turn out their based AND "divide and conquer" by the ilk infiltrators everywhere trumpeting the wedge issues to get conservatives to stay home. And this is exactly what happened.


336 posted on 11/11/2006 10:08:00 AM PST by FairOpinion (Don't give up! Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: skeeter

You mean the "huge underserved conservative constituency" who couldn't even manage to turn out enough to get McClintock elected Lt. Gov?


337 posted on 11/11/2006 10:09:37 AM PST by FairOpinion (Don't give up! Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"We did exactly what the RATS knew we would do."

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Exactly. The result is the Dem Congress.


338 posted on 11/11/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by FairOpinion (Don't give up! Start working on 2008 GOP win strategy NOW.)
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To: 68 grunt
I must apologize. The reply is rational, factual and based on conservative principle.

I share your hope and am in substantial agreement with the thrust of your well stated point.

Moving to the center is bad advice. Holding to conservative principles, without hypocrisy or deceit is, in my opinion, the way to go.

We remain, however, adversaries on the mechanism of politics. I do not believe that any political compromise, which seeks to move the playing field to the right, can accomplish that aim by even incremental movement to the left, even temporarily. A move to the left, requires even more energy to get back to the right, frequently more than is available, even with charismatic leadership.

Supporting a traditional liberal like Schwarzenegger, to stave off even more extreme liberal gain is, in my opinion, a bad decision which will bear immediately regrettable consequences. It is very difficult to undue the implications of the tacit approval of liberalism provided by an expedient compromise.

339 posted on 11/11/2006 10:25:39 AM PST by Amerigomag (Don't blame me. I don't vote for liberals.)
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To: FairOpinion
Good post.

I read yesterday that the reason no other down ballot Republicans won in Calif is that the heavy Republican districts in Southern Calif. didn't turn out. There was 5-10% less Republican turnout in Orange Co. and the others.

The question is why did they stay home. There were important state issues on the ballot. Were the "social conservatives" the ones that failed? IF so, they are supposed to "Render unto Caesar' etc" which seems to be a Godly admonition to do your civic duty.

340 posted on 11/11/2006 10:29:48 AM PST by muleskinner
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