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To: Rembrandt_fan
For Heaven's sake, Czarist Russia freed the serfs before American slaves were freed--and then only after bloody and sustained conflict

Have to hand it to you Straussians. Can't find a Western nation that went through a war over slavery so you jump to Russia. Good

And whenever I see the word 'sovereign' pop up in an argument concerning the balance of state and federal power, I know I'm dealing with a representative of the neo-confederate fringe. Hey, I know, why don't you declare yourself a 'sovereign citizen', declare your bunker a 'sovereign state', print your own money, elect your own officials, refuse to recognize state and federal authority, and then withdraw altogether from anything approaching the mainstream political life of this country? That way, your vote won't affect the outcome in legitimate elections--you're happy, I'm happy.

Good, more labeling. I so love Republicans paintbrushes. Don't believe in a bit of that. But I've found here on FR when you don't actually have an argument it's much easier to throw out non-sequiturs and expect the other person to spend time overcoming them. Suffice it to say, you're off the mark junior. Far, far, off the mark.

And in the meantime it allows you to continue your blame game of why Republicans lost the election instead of owning up to the fact that the general populace recognized the Republican party dropped the ball and has become nothing more than a pack of political hacks

142 posted on 11/12/2006 5:45:34 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
Don't call me 'junior', sport. Patronizing an opponent does not address the argument.

You wrote, "Can't find a Western nation that went through a war over slavery so you jump to Russia."

That wasn't my argument. My point was clear: your beloved leaders of 'The Cause' were so morally crippled and culturally backward as to be behind even Czarist Russia in recognizing the evil of one man owning another, but again, you awkwardly attempt to rephrase in order to dodge the central issue.

Further, it was you who threw out that 'Northern industrialist' angle as the cause of the Civil War, which is no more than a way for you self-styled sons of the Confederacy to soft-pedal slavery. 'War of Northern Aggression', my foot.

I've counted many friends from the South, particularly when I was in the Service, and I respected their love of home and heritage, but outright apologists for the Confederacy are another thing entirely and I've no patience with them and no respect for them. You cannot defend the practice of a great, self-evident evil in the name of states' rights. That particular argument has already been settled. And you know what? Lincoln out-thought and out-fought the lot of your idealogical kin--Davis and Lee and all the rest--and it galls you to this day.
146 posted on 11/12/2006 6:12:19 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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