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There are bogus Libertarians (e.g. people who are "into" Libertarianism because they like part of the "message", such as drug legalization or limiting the powers of the Federal Government), but those folks are like hypocrite "conservative" Republicans who "spent like a drunken sailor" while preaching fiscal discipline. It's like an atheist who calls himself a "Christian" because he likes the "philosophy", but he just can't get into the "Son of God" part since he doesn't believe in God in the first place.

LOL, stop it please. I can't laugh anymore..comparing belonging to a political party to one's faith in God. Nope, no koolaid in the Republican party, no sir.

I wonder. Considering the Republican party used libertarian stances to get elected in the 1980s (i.e. Ronald Reagan) what would that make him? Republicans ran for years on limited government and yet now to be a 'good' Republican one must buy into the falsehood that the federal government should have control over education in some sense (i.e. NCLB), should have a say in religion (faith based initiatives), and should have a say in issues the Framers intended for the states (legality of drugs, abortion, end of life issues, etc.).

You may not like this but this was the intent of the Framers. These issues were to be determined at the state level at best, and in some cases, not by any government at all. Their own writings confirm this and their lack of writings on other issues confirm it was never meant to be an issue for the federal government. And comparing membership into a political party to Christianity should be a slap in the face to any decent Christian of any political stripe.

I wonder. Considering the Republican party used libertarian stances to get elected in the 1980s (i.e. Ronald Reagan) what would that make him? It would make him what he was, a conservative Republican. I know you don't like facts intruding on your circular arguments, but the modern Conservative movement, which has always emphasized limited government and the 10th Amendment was founded in 1951. The Libertarian Party has been around since 1971. If anyone is stealing someone else's thunder it's the Libertarians.

Republicans ran for years on limited government and yet now to be a 'good' Republican one must buy into the falsehood that the federal government should have control over education in some sense (i.e. NCLB), should have a say in religion (faith based initiatives), and should have a say in issues the Framers intended for the states (legality of drugs, abortion, end of life issues, etc.). As Ronald Reagan would say, "there you go again". The Libertarians don't believe that the states, or any government, should "have a say" in the above listed "issues", so trying to stamp their imprimatur on your "Dixiecrat" view of the Articles of Confederation (which are a dead letter, get over it) is disingenuous to the extreme.

You may not like this but this was the intent of the Framers. These issues were to be determined at the state level at best, and in some cases, not by any government at all. Their own writings confirm this and their lack of writings on other issues confirm it was never meant to be an issue for the federal government. And comparing membership into a political party to Christianity should be a slap in the face to any decent Christian of any political stripe. I didn't know you were channeling the Framers, but riddle me this, what would have happened if some good proto-Libertarian had been distributing porno or drugs, burning the American flag, performing an abortion or denouncing Christianity outside Liberty Hall when the Continental Congress was debating the US Constitution? Tar and Feathers? The stocks? On the spot execution? Do you think, or don't you?