Why Conservatives Lost

townhall.com ^ | November 9, 2006 | Chuck Colson

[FreeInWV]

I'm tickled pink that Lincoln Chafee lost.

Is that bad?

[kuma]

We failed to out message the MSM's drum beat of defeat.

We are winning the WOT.
The American people wouldn't know this though

We got 2 new Constitutional Justices.

We banned Partial Birth Abortion.

We banned Federal FUNDING of embryonic stem cell research.

Next

We spent the taxpayers money like piggies.

We failed to secure the borders in a time of war.

Anybody else?

[uncbob]

And that is why we as a nation are going down

The barbarians are at the gates and the dems are in charge

[apackof2]

Conservatives as a whole did not lose here. Republicans did

Agree and because they weren't conservative enought

[dcrider182]

I agree whole heartly.. my next question is.. when.. if EVER will the MSM decide to report all the story.. what is in it for them to not spell out the positives?

[Mel Gibson]

The answer is because it's just the tip of the iceberg. Look at how the conservatives for years railed against the Democratic liberal establishment and all of its money, the lobbying establishment, the junkets, the payoffs. The conservatives campaigned against it in 1994, only to take over Washington and do exactly the same thing. This is what is known as rank hypocrisy.

What's sauce for the goose is good for the gander.

Is it unfair that when conservatives do things liberals do, that they, the conservatives, are labeled as hypocrites? No.

According to that great conservative thinker Russell Kirk, the first tenet of conservatism is the preservation of the moral order. True conservatives don't look at government as a plaything by which they can impose their latest ideas on the country;

Like Bush Jr's invasion of Iraq when all the evidence points to the Wahhabi Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as the custodian, financial sponsor and spiritual advisor to the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001!

TERRORISM FINANCING: ROOTS AND TRENDS OF SAUDI TERRORISM FINANCING

[pawdoggie]

Don't accept the blame, blame others. I lean towards the Libertarian Party as it's the closest to what I believe and I'm conservative. And I wouldn't support 5% of what the Republicans have foisted upon the citizens of the respective states in the past 6 years.

Besides abortion on demand, drug legalization, unrestricted pornography, removing references to God from public life, what else do you like about Liberaltarians?

[ShadowDancer]

Nope, that makes you a conservative.

[kuma]

I agree.

Everytime the MSM would come out with another story for the first run they would combat then after a couple weeks they fell silent.

That is why the MSM always harps on and on till Repubs just give up and shut up.

[Arizona Carolyn]

True conservatives don't look at government as a plaything by which they can impose their latest ideas on the country;

Does this include amnesty?

[MHGinTN]

Try to keep up on current postings ... Saddam was a year away from a nuclear device as shown by translated docs from Iraq shared here at FR and translated by our own jveritas.

[kuma]

What's in it for them? The triumph of their ideology.

The MSM is the Left. They will only give all the story when they can give all the credit to Democrats. Currently their objective is to defeat the Republican Party.

The internet and talk radio are our only two steady sources of getting the conservative message out. We need more avenues of communication but where and how? We also need to better learn how to keep a drum beating as steadily as the MSM does.

Among many other things, what more can we do to get the SUCCESS stories of Iraq and Afghanistan plus Homeland Security into the public eye?

[FreeInWV]

Actually, the next 2 years may be a conservative dream come true. Massive gridlock. The parties will fight each other's bills and neither party has the 60 votes to get anything passed.

We already have enough laws and entitlement programs. I don't see this as a loss.

[RichardW]

I think he is exactly right. Conservatives weren't defeated by liberals. Conservatives beat themselves. Only a blind man could fail to see how corrupt it had become. These earmarks are really just outrageous in the extreme. This is not Republicanism. This is not even Democratism. This is gross irresponsibility and greed.

[Mel Gibson]

There is no connection between the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and Saddam Hussein, even the protector and custodian of the Holy Mosque in Mecca living in the White House, George W. Bush admits it.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

No, if they had held their own, which I hoped to all hell that they would, I would have breathed a hefty sigh of relief. But they didn't hold their own. They lost.

The reason they lost is the same reason that Kerry lost in 04. They were running with nothing to offer but fear of the other guy.

They didn't have anything positive to offer because they had totally lost their way. They had paralyzed themselves. They did NOTHING since 2004. To get them to advance anything was like pulling teeth and then you only got the tooth loose without actually pulling it.

Before you jump all over people for being 'off the reservation', maybe you should take a look at the reservation and realize that many of us would gladly be back on it if our leaders would run the place properly.

What we are going through now is a wakeup call. Sounds like you are sleeping through it. I'm fearful that Bush and some other important people are too.

[Islander2]

Your post refers to the "dolt" factor in the electorate.
On tuesday, as an unpaid poll watcher (5:30a.m. until 7p.m.)
I witnessed a few hundred voters here in semi-rural Hawaii casting their votes. Doltsville. The "union man" told them how to vote for certain candidates....crib sheets. There are so many of them, that the Hawaii House now has 43 out of 51 seats in the hands of the Dems, and the Senate is 20-5 Dems. All this in spite of Rep Gov Lingle getting the most votes of any Gov in Hawaiian history.
The Dems lie and scare and since dolts don't know any better, they believe this trash. Our party does not appeal to dolts, and believe me they outnumber us.

[quantim]

Maybe we need to write a screenplay called, 'Romancing The Dolt,' lol!

[KDD]

An example of one of the dangers of any religious sect attempting to force its dogma on society as a whole through government dictate may be found in an interesting corollary.

The Patriot Act for example.

Limited Government conservatives screamed bloody murder at the blatant 4th amendment violations contained in it and warned that such a tool in the hands of even a benevolent despot would subject Americans to government control and surveillance that would be absolutely Orwellian.

I don't have to replay the verbal beat down that such conservatives received from the Party Republicans here and the justifications spouted for giving up a little privacy in exchange for security.

Now that such powers are shown to not be safeguarded by a permanent GOP majority I wonder how many feel the same.

Now that Nancy Pelosi; D. San Francisco is two seats from the Oval Office chair.

Many conservatives think the Church has its proper sphere in society and politics has its own and though they may have many of the same goals their means to the same end must be different..

And any melding of the two corrupts both and imagine if the Church shared or surrendered, even by mistake, its moral capital to say...a Hillary Clinton? I prefer my religion to be above politics.