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Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse (BARF)
Time ^ | 11/10/2006 | ADAM ZAGORIN

Posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:55 AM PST by Tatze

Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse

A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the former Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo

By ADAM ZAGORIN

Just days after his resignation, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called "20th hijacker" and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. As TIME first reported in June 2005, Qahtani underwent a "special interrogation plan," personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs say that one of the witnesses who will testify on their behalf is former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the one-time commander of all U.S. military prisons in Iraq. Karpinski — who the lawyers say will be in Germany next week to publicly address her accusations in the case — has issued a written statement to accompany the legal filing, which says, in part: "It was clear the knowledge and responsibility [for what happened at Abu Ghraib] goes all the way to the top of the chain of command to the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ."

A spokesperson for the Pentagon told TIME there would be no comment since the case has not yet been filed.

Along with Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Tenet, the other defendants in the case are Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone; former assistant attorney general Jay Bybee; former deputy assisant attorney general John Yoo; General Counsel for the Department of Defense William James Haynes II; and David S. Addington, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff. Senior military officers named in the filing are General Ricardo Sanchez, the former top Army official in Iraq; Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the former commander of Guantanamo; senior Iraq commander, Major General Walter Wojdakowski; and Col. Thomas Pappas, the one-time head of military intelligence at Abu Ghraib.

Germany was chosen for the court filing because German law provides "universal jurisdiction" allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world. Indeed, a similar, but narrower, legal action was brought in Germany in 2004, which also sought the prosecution of Rumsfeld. The case provoked an angry response from Pentagon, and Rumsfeld himself was reportedly upset. Rumsfeld's spokesman at the time, Lawrence DiRita, called the case a "a big, big problem." U.S. officials made clear the case could adversely impact U.S.-Germany relations, and Rumsfeld indicated he would not attend a major security conference in Munich, where he was scheduled to be the keynote speaker, unless Germany disposed of the case. The day before the conference, a German prosecutor announced he would not pursue the matter, saying there was no indication that U.S. authorities and courts would not deal with allegations in the complaint.

In bringing the new case, however, the plaintiffs argue that circumstances have changed in two important ways. Rumsfeld's resignation, they say, means that the former Defense Secretary will lose the legal immunity usually accorded high government officials. Moreover, the plaintiffs argue that the German prosecutor's reasoning for rejecting the previous case — that U.S. authorities were dealing with the issue — has been proven wrong.

"The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer," says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a U.S.-based non-profit helping to bring the legal action in Germany. He also notes that the Military Commissions Act, a law passed by Congress earlier this year, effectively blocks prosecution in the U.S. of those involved in detention and interrogation abuses of foreigners held abroad in American custody going to back to Sept. 11, 2001. As a result, Ratner contends, the legal arguments underlying the German prosecutor's previous inaction no longer hold up.

Whatever the legal merits of the case, it is the latest example of efforts in Western Europe by critics of U.S. tactics in the war on terror to call those involved to account in court. In Germany, investigations are under way in parliament concerning cooperation between the CIA and German intelligence on rendition — the kidnapping of suspected terrorists and their removal to third countries for interrogation. Other legal inquiries involving rendition are under way in both Italy and Spain.

U.S. officials have long feared that legal proceedings against "war criminals" could be used to settle political scores. In 1998, for example, former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet — whose military coup was supported by the Nixon administration — was arrested in the U.K. and held for 16 months in an extradition battle led by a Spanish magistrate seeking to charge him with war crimes. He was ultimately released and returned to Chile. More recently, a Belgian court tried to bring charges against then Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon for alleged crimes against Palestinians.

For its part, the Bush Administration has rejected adherence to the International Criminal Court (ICC) on grounds that it could be used to unjustly prosecute U.S. officials. The ICC is the first permanent tribunal established to prosecute war crimes, genocide and other crimes against humanity.


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KEYWORDS: abughraib; germany; iraq; ratner; rummy; rumsfeld
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To: eeevil conservative

Bush's reaction will be very telling.

I agree with you--if Bush doesn't cover Rummy's back, FReepers haven't seen Bush-bashing yet!


41 posted on 11/10/2006 11:18:37 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: COEXERJ145
If one looks at the planning, almost all is done with Japan as the target.

Because they knew that the Manhattan Project would not bear fruit until after Germany was defeated.

42 posted on 11/10/2006 11:18:42 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: eeevil conservative
If BUSH does not come out HARD and STRONG to defend Rummy--

Defend him against what? This joke? C'mon... this has no teeth, means nothing, and doesn't even deserve a response.

43 posted on 11/10/2006 11:18:59 AM PST by Ramius
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To: Ben Hecks

Time to get a comprehensive list together of imports and German based corporations in the USA.


44 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:08 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: Tatze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCG2E6AtNfc

damn funny if you haven't seen it...



45 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:09 AM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (It's all about the swagger......)
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To: Tatze
A lawsuit in Germany...

I stopped reading right there.

This from the country that let its Jewish citizenry get made into lampshades.

46 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:23 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Bobkk47

The Germans won't have jurisdiction over any US citizen unless the attorney general allows legal paperwork to move forward to take possession of the guy. For the remaining two years...this will not occur. For the German left...this is all a media game and cheapens law to the point of being a "bartered lady in a red-light district" (I tried to say this in a dignififed manner).

What you may notice over the next twelve months is a direct attempt to have customs and legal officals on Ramstein to monitor aircraft and passengers flying in and out of the port there. This will simply be a first-step.

As for any jurisdiction....the moment that the human rights court opened up via the UN...in Europe...this whole mess went into a different view. These people actually believe that they can bring this earth to a better place...by charging people in court. The amusing thing...is that they won't go after Mr. Kim....nor Castro....nor any leftist dictator out of Venezuela...or even a Russian president who orders the personal execution of a reporter. Nor would they even go after business men who plunder companies throughout Europe and just walk away...leaving bankrupt organizations and bank officals hanging.

This is the mighty fine world we live in....and beats watching a Jerry Lewis movie on a Saturday night.


47 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:44 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: rottndog
I agree with you--if Bush doesn't cover Rummy's back, FReepers haven't seen Bush-bashing yet!

I'm not a Bush-basher, though I disagree with him on a lot. But giving Rummy to the Germans would be beyond tolerable.

48 posted on 11/10/2006 11:19:51 AM PST by The Blitherer (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.)
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To: mystery-ak
It's not Germany (the country) but the worldwide Socialist movement according to Rush. Our beloved Dem brothers will join them. Thanks to those conservatives who did not vote in this election
49 posted on 11/10/2006 11:20:28 AM PST by Max01
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To: Tatze

"Qahtani underwent a "special interrogation plan," personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques."

The question is, do they have proof?


51 posted on 11/10/2006 11:20:54 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Tatze
Oh, the headline didn't mention it was Germany.

No big deal.

52 posted on 11/10/2006 11:21:08 AM PST by lormand (0 to 10,000,000 people read my posts everyday)
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To: holdonnow

Ping.


53 posted on 11/10/2006 11:21:13 AM PST by AliVeritas (Get out and vote. Yeah you, at the monitor, get off your duff and vote. Go GOP!)
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To: Tatze

they are suining an American in Germany for things that happened in Iraq

that is a bit of a stretch


54 posted on 11/10/2006 11:21:48 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: Tatze

Funny how Germany never sought prosecution against Saddam and his henchmen for years of killing and raping. If it wasn't for Bush's tenacity, they would have never been brought to justice! Also, how ironic is it that countless al Qaeda leaders and operatives have been captured or killed in Iraq! Yet, Germany...as did much of the world... claimed there were no terrorist ties and that the war was illegitimate. Socialists are so pathetic and out of touch, it's nearly impossible to reason with them.


55 posted on 11/10/2006 11:21:48 AM PST by MichaelManureMoore (Hillary & Nancy...It Takes Two Moms To Raise A Gay Party!)
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To: Tatze
I think it's time to redeploy from Germany and bring the troops home. WW2 has been a colossal failure that has made us less safe.
56 posted on 11/10/2006 11:21:57 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
They didn't know that at the time. The planning began in 1943 long before Germany's defeat was assured.

The initial target suggested for the bomb was Truk Lagoon and the Japanese fleet anchored there.

57 posted on 11/10/2006 11:22:26 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: subterfuge

Unfortunately, AQ is emboldened by our elections and will probably strike soon. Those who voted the rats in will live (or not live) to regret it. We are in a real mess right now. I was in the city on 9/11 and for the first time in 5 years I do not feel secure. The President needs to come out and reassure the troops and the country that we will win this fight.


58 posted on 11/10/2006 11:22:55 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Tatze

here is the building: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1706124/posts

story with video: http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/20/bombshell-abc-independently-confirms-success-of-cia-torture-tactics/

Without tough interrogation, the Library Tower in Los Angeles would have been destroyed. How many lives might have been lost? 10,000? 20,000? Thanks, Rummy. Los Angeles and your nation owes you a great debt of gratitude.


59 posted on 11/10/2006 11:22:57 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
An email I just sent to the German Embassy in Washington...

"If Germany proceeds in its case against Donald Rumsfeld and other top US officials I will have no choice but to cancel a planned vacation to Germany - my third in several years and my purchase of my third BMW.

I can not support this type of hate mongering and US bashing with my dollars. I'm sure many Americans feel the same way. Can Germany's already struggling economy withstand a prolong boycott of all things German?"
60 posted on 11/10/2006 11:24:07 AM PST by HonorInPa
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