Posted on 11/10/2006 9:04:52 AM PST by screw boll
I know the Republicans lost; it is time for sole searching, etc. etc. The fact is, however, if 3,615 votes in Virginia and 1,423 votes in Montana had gone the other way, the Dems would have no Majority. My point? The Dems will not be the “Permanent Majority” for too long.
Here is the math: Web in Virginia won with a 7,231-vote margin – Half of it is 3,615. In Montana, Jon Tester won with a 2,847 margin – half of it is 1,423.
3,615 + 1,423 = 5,038.
Libertarians are few and far between. They have zero impact on elections. They are an antiwar, anti big govt party. Why any conservative thinks they would vote GOP is beyond me. I think many freepers like to bash and scapegoat them because they hate folks who smoke MJ (as though lots of Republicans don't)
If every conservative voted it would still not be enough. You have to get enough votes from the middle to get over 50%. That's what the dems did this year and we didn't. (with plenty of help from the fish wrap producers)
The first step in fixing a problem is recognizing what it truly is.
I should have linked that . That came from Wilkpedia. I think whgat they meant by noteable was one that possibily could be contested.
On that subject, do you think Thad Cochern will be retiring and if he does who replaces him. Would Barbour maybe run?
In 2008 I want a paper ballot and a receipt with a number, that I can check on line. How do I make this happen?
I have heard rumors he might retire and that Chip Pickering will run. Rumors only.
You call them "losertarians" and expect them to vote to help your side politically.
You call them "losertarians" and expect them to vote to help your side politically.
Tester's already made an a$$ of himself on AC180 last night.
I think things will get worse in Virginia before it gets better. This state is becoming more and more liberal every year. Lots of folks from New York and New Jersey are moving here to retire and they are bringing their voting habits with them.
This is a loss...but for Webb in six years...he likely loses very easily if a bright new face for the Republicans in Virginia shows up and really does talk issues.
oh yeah, well, I still feel better regardless of your long post and all that you mentioned.... and I agree with your tag line.
The Republican party was once a team effort. Something happened to that, after we won, and it happened specifically after the 2004 re-election. This is when the sniping began, and when the domino's began to fall.
I never left the team and I tried to stay focused on the prize, but others were more concerned with gaining control of the party and they did this to the detriment of all.
And don't forget that the results of the election are "the winds of change." I guess that's what it's called when the dems win. Of course, when the conservatives win, it's called "having a temper tantrum."
Interestingly enough is that it seems that many who either sat out the election or voted against the republicans did just that.
Mark
Whatever. I guess Burns determined there were not enough votes to over turn the results and he spared himself from looking like algore.
Ditto for George Allen.
Were the republican numbers low compared to usual elections?
I don't know why you spouted off to me like that. I was just making the comment that I was somewhat relieved to here how close the numbers were.
Only because it shows me that not everyone around me is a anti-gun, homo, treehugging, save the wolves and kill the old people and unborn babies, starve the Terris, pro- NEA, sissyboy, etc American. That is all I meant. I am just glad to know there are more conservatives around me than it may look like at times.
If history is any indicator, that is not true. IMO, the House will be much harder to take back. During the 62 year period 1933-1995, the Dems controlled the House for 58 years and the Senate for 54 years. The power of incumbency is very strong. The Reps must now come up with the candidates to challenge the incumbents who will be able to use their office to campaign for the next two years.
The Senate is easier to target because it is fewer in number and only one third is elected every two years. It is easy for us to target because you need fewer challengers and we don't have the problems of gerrymandering of districts, which affect House races. Also, demographics work against us as the minority population, a core Dem constituency, continues to increase faster than the general population.
And I imagine some republicans won't like being in the minority and will retire, leaving us seats to defend.
That is going to happen in both Houses. After being in charge for 12 years in the House, it is going to be hard for some Reps to accept being ranking members on committees and not being able to set the agenda. I can only imagine how it will be to have Rangel, Conyers, and Waxman being in charge. It is going to get ugly.
Frist screwed us by retiring, I know people hated him as speaker but that was a seat we had to work for that otherwise we would not, and without that seat the democrats may not have even gotten in their head they could take the senate, and we could have held missouri and maybe montana (where we needed to remove Burns because of ties to Abramoff and then we would have won it easily).
Frist's retirement didn't cost us his seat. Dole did a very poor job of recruiting candidates and allocated resources terribly. If the Reps had poured money into the Burns campaign from the beginning, we would have held MT. Instead, we accepted the conventional wisdom that Burns was tainted and a loser. MT now has two Dem senators. WY has a Dem governor. ND has two Dem senators. Neb has a Dem senator. The Reps have not done a good job of recruiting candidates. Schumer and Emmanuel made some inspired choices including Webb, Sestak, Casey, and McCaskill.
The Dems now control more state houses and governorships than we do, which portends some bad things for us in the future in terms of redistricting and controlling the local process. The bottom line is that we suffered an historic reversal that can't be fixed by the next election. The Dems will have control of at least the House for some time to come.
And Bush is President by what, 359 votes.
J.D. Heyworth was a 6 term congressman, Jim Ryun had been in for 5 years, Nancy Johnson was on her 6th or 7th term, Curt Weldon had been in Congress forever, Anne Northrup had been there for years. Don't tell me that the GOP lost weak districts. They lost in what used to be some very safe seats.
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